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"Ted Cruz vows to ‘utterly destroy ISIS’ and ‘carpet bomb’ terrorists"

"Ted Cruz vows to ‘utterly destroy ISIS’ and ‘carpet bomb’ terrorists", Web Link

This is the GOP standard first go to option. Gee, sounds all warm and fuzzy, but how, exactly, would that work, Senator?

Some may remember US History classes from our youth. I seem to recall an event called the Revolutionary War, when the Colonies decided, by majority mind you, to seek freedom from British rule and fought the British, resulting in a new Country - the United States of America.

One of the strategies employed (successfully) by the colonial revolutionaries was Not dressing up in uniforms, thereby identifying themselves as revolutionaries, but instead fighting in their regular clothes making it impossible for the Brits to distinguish, with certainty, who they were fighting.

Further, we have and continue to see ISIS and other middle eastern jihadi believers blend right in with local innocents to avoid targeting; and it works more often than not.

"Carpet bomb"? Really? Please, oh wise Senator, share with us just exactly how that would work and the benefits of such.

Moron, playing on (alleged) patriotism (and stupidity). How gullible does this Senator believe we are? Evidently, pretty darn gullible. What a(nother) insult offered by the top echelons of the GOP.


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One excerpt from the linked piece: “If I am elected president, we will utterly destroy ISIS," the Texas senator and Republican presidential candidate told reporters. "We won’t weaken them. We won’t degrade them. We will utterly destroy them. We will carpet bomb them into oblivion. We will arm the Kurds. We will do everything necessary so that every militant on the face of the earth will know if you go and join ISIS, if you wage jihad and declare war on America, you are signing your death warrant.”

Maybe Mr Cruz missed the part about suicide missions (like the most recent San Bernardino killings) and suicide bombers. "Signing their death warrant"? That sounds good in a Charles Bronson movie, but we're not talking Hollywood here; we are talking real life and these folks have made it very clear that they don't care a whit about their own lives - so how does Mr Cruz thing they feel about his life, or his "death warrant" claim?


^^very clear that they don't care a whit about their own lives^^

Oh really?

Web Link


Cruz is the Joe McCarthy of our time.


Nice to hear the voice of reason last night on TV. Thank goodness Obama is POTUS and not Ted Cruz.


+1 and a Big Double +1!!

What say we keep it that way (the last part, of course).


Nobody who knows Ted likes Ted enough to help him into the Presidency. He is universally disliked even by those who would LIKE to like him. He will always be relegated to being "that obnoxious gadfly".


And with good cause, but then we see this; "A poll just found Ted Cruz surging past Donald Trump in Iowa", Web Link , which comes complete with a goofy pic of the gentleman.

Oh, the captions one could provide that pic.

It's a shame the GOP can't do any better in providing Americans with reasonable candidates, but that only shows how difficult it can be to find a leader.

"Nobody who knows Ted likes Ted enough to help him into the Presidency." Heck, all I know of Cruz is what we've seen and read over the past year, which is more than enough to dislike him - easy to do and reasonable.


Santorum tied Romney in the 2012 Iowa caucuses. Romney lost the general and Santorum is now an internet joke. Oh, Iowa!


Apparently the Flat Business Tax Cruz is promoting is actually an elimination of biz tax enabled by a 16-19% federal sales tax on all goods produced in the US. He also wants to increase tax on middle-class retirees.

Ted's dead on arrival.


"Ted Cruz Tells Fabricated Story About A Girl Threatened With Jail For Saying ‘Jesus’", Web Link

I posted this on another thread, but it seems it belongs here, too. Besides, our token tea baggers haven't taken the opportunity to show us once again how gullible and truly silly they are by trying to defend this clown.

Teddy is a liar. Who, in their right mind, would vote for a known liar for President of the US? Further, what does it say about the GOP itself, that they can offer such trash to the American public?


Lot's of David Dewhursts commenting on Ted Cruz in their ignorant manner. He turned Diane Feinstein into a babbling gas bag regarding the Second Amendment. I imagine he'd make The Inevitable Madam Hillary look like the incompetent fool she is.

Then again, it would be easy for Goofy to do the same.


^^^ Who, in their right mind, would vote for a known liar for President of the US? ^

George Muteff, that's who!


"Bob Dole really, really doesn’t like Ted Cruz", Web Link

"On MSNBC's "Andrea Mitchell Reports" Tuesday, the veteran anchor sat down with former Senate majority leader and 1996 Republican presidential nominee Bob Dole to talk, ostensibly, about the current state of his party and the rise of Donald Trump. But the Kansas Republican had something else on his mind. And that something else was how much he dislikes Texas Sen. Ted Cruz."

"In a question about what Dole makes of Trump, the former Senate leader quickly turned matters to Cruz. "He's not traditional Republican conservative," Dole said of the Texan. "Achievements are shutting down the government twice, and calling the Republican leader, Mitch McConnell, a liar on the Senate floor. It violates the rules of the Senate. And he doesn't have a single Senate supporter.""

I always did like Bob Dole. Didn't always agree with him, but always liked him. In this case, I agree with him. Seems a good many others do too; and with very good cause.

As Coasters so eloquently put it; Cruz is DOA.


I liked Bob Dole so much I voted for him.


^^^ Nice to hear the voice of reason last night on TV. Thank goodness Obama is POTUS and not Ted Cruz. ^^^

I can't tell who's happier, "Coasters," George or ISIS:

Web Link


I'm glad that Francis has found a medium he can relate to.

Cartoons.

Maybe Santa will bring you some crayons for Xmas and you can start on that manifesto.


"White House contender Cruz dismisses climate change as 'pseudo-scientific'", Web Link

Isn't that a coincidence. Most throughout America dismiss Cruz as a "pseudo-candidate".

Life is so full of ironies.


Have you noticed where Ted has firmly placed his nose this week? He can tell us all exactly what The Donald had for lunch yesterday.

Looks like he's jockeying for a Trump/Cruz ticket.


What a charmer you are.

Ted Cruz is biding his time to scoop up Trump's supporters later in the game. No need to antagonize them. He also has his own strong base and doesn't waste resources tearing down other Republicans.


Now That is funny.


How can Anyone with any semblance of working tissue between the ears actually in any way support Cruz? You're OK with a Liar? You're OK with someone threatening nuclear war ... as a Presidential candidate? You're OK with an elected official attempting to thwart not only the current admin, and his peers, but his own party?

You actually believe this guy has any chance at all in securing the republican nomination? There is No Question about the GOP failures and flops; it just can not be denied - but even I don't believe they've sunk so low as to allow, in any way, any possibility of a Cruz Anything resulting from the GOP Convention. Cruz will be lucky to be a footnote of the 2016 Presidential election ... at best.

Yeah, if that's what you really think, uff, 2 things jump out: 1) Good Luck with that posture & 2) give us a call when your space ship gets back to Earth.

Cruz? Seriously? Wow!


I have not decided who to support.

Why do you jump to conclusions and in such a Valley Girl fashion? "Oh my GOD!!"


^^^ I have not decided who to support. ^^^

It's great having an opportunity to choose from such qualified field, isn't it?


"It's great having an opportunity to choose from such qualified field, isn't it?"

"Qualified field"? Qualified for what?

Are we talking the same "field"? Are we even talking the same country?

Good to see a glimpse of what some might consider a sense of humor.


^^^ Are we even talking the same country? ^^^

With George Muteff, I'm not sure its the same planet.

Besides that, spurious nitwits don't really consider qualifications or where a candidate stands on important issues.


"Ted Cruz says Middle East was safer with Saddam Hussein: ‘That's not even a close call’", Web Link

"Republican Presidential Candidate Ted Cruz said that the Middle East was more stable before the United States helped topple dictators Saddam Hussein in Iraq and Moammar Gadhafi in Libya."

"The Texas senator went into detail about his foreign policy strategy in an interview on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” He said that the United States should be concerned primarily with defending its vital national security interests – not overthrowing brutal regimes in the Middle East."

"From Cruz’s perspective, it is the lesser of two evils to have stable, though cruel tyrants in charge of Muslim-majority nations than vacuums for ISIS and other jihadists to exploit."


>>"Ted Cruz says Middle East was safer with Saddam Hussein: ‘That's not even a close call’"<<

Well then George are you going to vote for Ted Cruz since Democrats have been saying the same thing, hammering Bush about going into Iraq (I thought back then that it was dumb, BTW).

You might not want to hear this though about Hillary:

"The GOP candidate accused President Obama and Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton — and many of his fellow Republicans — of not learning this lesson from history, as evidenced by the United States’ role in toppling Gadhafi.

“We killed him, and he was actually cooperating and hunting down and stopping radical Islamic terrorists,” Cruz continued. [don't you remember this?] “And what happened instead was Obama and Hillary led NATO in killing Gadhafi and, by the way, with the support of a whole lot of Republicans in Washington, who were wrong to do so. And the result is now Libya is a chaotic war zone ruled by radical Islamic terrorists.”"

And then Obama abandoned Iraq to the jackals after the area had been stabilized.

It's a shared mess, wouldn't you say?


In your zeal to attack, thinking you had a "gotcha moment", it seems you missed the very slight detail / fact that not one pixel from the above post regarding Cruz' comments on the middle east is mine. Huh, missed that, didn't you uff? See what anger/hate can do to a person? Just walked right on by that fact, didn't you?

It is, or at lest shouldn't be any surprise to know that I think less of Cruz than some dog blowing his nose in a gutter. I have no use for liars - none at all; not now, not ever. The very idea of in any way supporting a liar in any regard, for any purpose is nauseating to me. Cruz fits that model, just as most, if not all republican wannabes. I've got no use for any of them.

I can and will say, however, that Trump is something to see. Is he good or what? If you'd like to see the very stark difference between smart and stupid: "Jeb Bush's operation appears to have set $32.5 million on fire", Web Link

Look at those numbers. Trump (1st in polls) has spent the least by a bunch - $216K, while Bush 3 (5th in polls) has spent $32.5 Million - and what does each have to show for it? Gotta admit, Trump is a master showman while Bush 3 is a ... well, we'll leave that to historians.

Cruz? Well, he's just a freak. I should clarify and be more specific. Cruz is a freak on roids. The rest of the GOP leadership (if that's what you want to call them) and their offerings are lesser freaks, but freaks none-the-less.

I wish his (Cruz') comments were easy to dissect; they aren't. The primarily republican policy of control and contain in the middle east was a failed policy from day one; but it did work for a while. It no longer works, and with good cause.

But on the face of it, Cruz actually appears to be in agreement with most; we had no cause to invade Iraq and kill Saddam. Further, let's not forget that we put Saddam in power and he was a good boy ... for a while, until he wasn't. He was not alone in that fact. Noriega, the Shah and many others were supported by the US admin and US resources to suit US interests. Many went rogue once introduced to insane wealth and power and control. Saddam is an example of that.

Gaddafi would be another good example of the above of a US sponsored tyrant.

May I remind you, uff, that the American public was sick of war and voted for Obama to get out - which he did. Two separate administrations, two different approaches, and rightfully so. Yes, I agree that Bush created the void that radicals have filled. I would also say that the son forced us to pay for the father's sins. It was daddy that supported Saddam in the first place. In the end, both Bushes walk and we foot the bill.


What "zeal to attack?" You went on to repeat what I said! :-)

As far as who wrote the comments you quoted, I didn't say you did. So.....????


^^^ As far as who wrote the comments you quoted, I didn't say you did. So.....???? ^^^

You do realize that he doesn't hold Democrats to the same high standards or expectations he has for Republicans, don't you? You do realize that he thinks Republicans are his mortal enemies and that Democrats are pure as the driven snow, don't you? And you surely realize that he is incapable of assessing issues and evaluating each candidate based on those issues, right?

All he's good for is repeating the vicious drivel he reads at various websites about Republicans. Except that it takes him 20000000 words to say the same thing when 200 will do.

And it gets really boring after a while. That's why you see him providing 80% of the comments on threads that he starts.

Ted Cruz is an exceptional character with a brilliant legal mind and sound knowledge of the US Constitution, much more so than that phony constitutional expert in the Whitehouse. He has argued before the Supreme Court, something the community organizer Obama has never done. He challenged the Republican establishment in Texas and won. He's doing so now as a US Senator, much to their consternation.

So in some respects, you'd think a ludicrously vitriolic hater of the Republican Party would find something to like about Cruz. The problem is that George isn't as well informed as he is judgmental and he relies to heavily on what his "tribal leaders" tell him to think.


"Ted Cruz is an exceptional character ..." He certainly is.


Famous liberal Harvard law professor Alan Dershowitz said this about his student:

Ted Cruz “was an outstanding student in my class,” Dershowitz said. “Without a doubt he is among the smartest students I’ve ever had… I’ve had great students but he has to be at the top of anyone’s short list, in terms of raw brain power.”

Web Link


I'm not sure I understand your point. Are you supporting Cruz or espousing Dershowitz pedigree?


I'm pointing out how amazingly smart Cruz is as attested by his liberal law professor. I would happy if Cruz were elected but haven't decided yet if he's "my" candidate yet.

Alan Dershowitz is a renowned scholar and law professor who taught Ted Cruz at Harvard and is a go-to expert for issues of media interest. Dershowitz says Ted Cruz was at the top of his top students. From the article:

"Dershowitz says he and Cruz would often debate issues presented in Dershowitz’s criminal law class. “Cruz’s views were always thoughtful and his responses were interesting,” the law professor explained. “I obviously disagreed with them and we had good arguments in class. I would challenge him and he would come up with very good responses.”

Cruz’s “career has not surprised me. I thought he would go on to accomplish important things."

Web Link


From the linked piece uff provided above; “His movement toward social conservatism has surprised me a little bit,” Dershowitz added, but “people will change and perhaps when you are at Harvard Law School you are less likely to espouse a socially conservative point of view.” (Dershowitz)

So while the piece clearly describes Dershowitz' thoughts on Cruz as a student (academia), he is "surprised" by how Cruz is using that education. Interesting, huh?

"But Dershowitz doesn’t think that his old student would win the 2016 GOP nomination."

“I don’t think he’ll get the nomination when you think about Rubio and posturing himself a little more to the center on immigration,” Dershowitz said. “Cruz won’t run in 2016 and that he’ll wait. Just a prediction. He would probably establish himself first before he ran.”

Even a "liberal law professor" can make mistakes. Even a "liberal law professor" can be wrong. Even a "liberal law professor" can sometimes blur the line between an "exceptional student" and the political moves that student makes once gone.

I'm not defending either character, but rather showing that just because a teacher is liberal and his student was a good student in class doesn't mean the teacher agrees with the student on anything - just that the student was good. I don't think anyone has challenged the IQ of Cruz. I haven't; but I challenge just about everything Mr Cruz purports to represent and hold dear. He's just another panderer that will say anything, anytime to anyone if it promotes him.

What I believe we need as Commander-in-Chief is an honest (which disqualifies Mr Cruz), thoughtful leader (another disqualifier). I see Cruz (and the rest of the GOP offerings) as the anti-candidate. Maybe he should have taken Dershowitz' advice of "establish[ing] himself" first. But then, Dershowitz is a "liberal" and we can't trust any of them, can we?


Simpler argument: just because someone is called smart doesn't mean they're correct or right.


^^^ Simpler argument: just because someone is called smart doesn't mean they're correct or right. ^^^

You really are hopeless, George.


How about you get off my backside, grow a set and do a deep search for brain tissue - so you can argue issues instead of conjuring your constant personal attacks?

Talk about hopeless? Take a good, hard and long look in a mirror. It'll need to be an oversized mirror to have the ability to capture that huge head and ego you carry around.

It really is sad to see the depths one can fall to and wallow in. Get a grip and grow up. Put on your big-boy panties, francis.


Remember that it was Allan Dershowitz who spent a year telling everyone that O J was innocent.

Right on George, even liberal law professors can be wrong once in a while.


What would Dershowitz be wrong about? Cruz's intelligence?


“Cruz won’t run in 2016 and that he’ll wait." That might be a fair starting point to answer your question.

What a completely ridiculous question / attempted setup. You can do better, uff.

Further, if Dershowitz was wrong about when Cruz would run, what else might he be wrong about? (Hint: see Mr Bills comment above)

It is truly amazing to see alleged adults purport that because an individual is high profile, or well educated, or successful by most folks definition that they can't be wrong ... can't make mistakes - and therefor are "Super Human".

We all make mistakes. None of us is perfect, with some significantly less perfect than others. Nobody is right all the time just like nobody is wrong all the time.

Welcome to the human race, uff. Perhaps that's why God gave us a brain ... with the intended purpose that we actually use our own as opposed to blindly following others?

Gee, what a "profound" thought, huh?


George, you were asking what I meant you posting the article about Dershowitz and Cruz so I told you.


Typo-- asking what I meant BY posting the article...


^^^ How about you get off my backside ^^^

I'll try when you write something other than your demented grousing about Republicans. Or when don't fly into a rage because Republicans get to choose from a terrific field of candidates. Repeat after Thumper: Web Link

^^^ “Cruz won’t run in 2016 and that he’ll wait." That might be a fair starting point to answer your question. ^^^

That statement has nothing to do with Cruz's intelligence. It would make more sense to stipulate that Cruz is a very intelligent legal whiz and that you detest him for highly partison political reasons.

^^^ Remember that it was Allan Dershowitz who spent a year telling everyone that O J was innocent. ^^^

Actually, he claimed that the prosecutor didn't prove their case. Turns out they didn't, so he may have had a point. Not that it has any bearing on his opinion regarding of one of his stellar law school students.


"That statement has nothing to do with Cruz's intelligence." Boy, you catch on fast, huh? Can't fool you.

"What would Dershowitz be wrong about?" That was the question. You've already stumbled across (one of) the answers. Great job.

Cruz, like the rest of the GOP offerings and the GOP 'leadership', is a loser. Abundant evidence has been supplied, with more coming in almost daily on him, and daily for the others.

It must really suck to hate someone or something so much that you willingly blind yourself to the facts provided to support opposition to your hate.

What a sorry, pathetic life and soul. Maybe Carson, who sits on the right hand of God, btw, will pray for you. Personally, I'd think that's the least he can do, particularly after all the excrement you've eaten to support him.


Jeez, calm down. Lose the hate speech.


_/!\_

Pray for George!

_/!\_

And then make fun of him!


Lookie here - francis, the clever little troll that he is, has figured out a new form of amusement for himself.

Isn't that cute? What a complex little critter francis is. Seems he'll do or try darn near anything to misdirect &/or hijack a thread. With what he has to work with, I'm not surprised. It must be quite the challenge and chore supporting a group of blatant liars and panderers.

Better him than the rest of us ... and it will appear that way come election time, too. The GOP has simply lost too much blood to live as it currently is. The only question at this point is what will the final straw be ... and when will it be delivered?


George, you must be the life of the party-NOT. Do you talk non-stop about things you don't fully understand when you are not on talk-about?

Your problem is that you can't disagree with a person without getting up "in their face". You don't wear Politics well. Don't bother answering my inquiry, I could probably write one of your favorite retorts now. We have all heard them.


Seal, your constructive criticism will be taken under advisement - NOT.

Although it is very kind of you to analyze what you feel are my "problem(s)", may I suggest you tend to your own. We'll both be better off.

May I also suggest that you try to stay within the lines of topic. Picky? Maybe, but that is the idea that the playground masters promote. Give it a try, get past your self-absorbtion, put on a Happy Face and get in both the election spirit and the Holiday spirit.

Your blood pressure will surely appreciate it - and so will most that see your stuff.


George you need to start improving your writing style. You can critique an issue or a candidate without being so emotionally charged.


The doctor is in! Aren't we lucky?

Your degree in psychology and your resulting critiques are much appreciated, I'm sure - by some, but not by me.

You've got some nerve, Seal. I post to the old TA, the soon to be extinct TA. I have not initiated one thread on the new and improved TA that most play on. I may have posted to the new one 2 or maybe 3 times so far, deliberately. You literally have to go out of your way to read this TA, yet you do. You have complained about my posts many times before, yet you still read them!?! Go figure.

Then you have the nerve to personally attack me?! You are a piece of work.

Once again - it would be my pleasure if when you see my name on something - pass it by - ignore it.

That way you won't get your panties in a bunch and neither will I. How's that sound Dr Seal?

And you think you are so slick as to hide behind an anon moniker? With all due respect, Seal - grow a set, then come talk to me if you like.

Thank you and have a great night.


Oh, and the topic is Cruz. Perhaps you can remember that next time you post to this thread - if you do.


George, you make the topic about yourself when you cross boundaries. Just saying. At one point maybe a year ago we were all trying to get back to civility here... seems to not be possible.


^^^ Oh, and the topic is Cruz. Perhaps you can remember that next time you post to this thread - if you do. ^^^

He sure gets under your skin.


Oh dear, it ight be time for a "suicide watch," Cruz takes a 10-point lead in Iowa:

Web Link

George or the establishment Republicans? It's hard to say which will be the most unstable.


Naw, I don't think Cruz will step in front of a train or jump off a bridge because of his numbers, although I'm sure he's excited.

Thinking about it, however, he could threaten/promise to jump off the GG Bridge as a pay-per-view event to raise money for his campaign! Heck, I'd buy a ticket.


George, that's mean.


Dr Seal, get over yourself, if even for a short period. While you're in that happy place, please find a sense of humor.

Thank you.


Crude and rude is how George rolls. But that's what makes him happy!


Integrity, thoughtfulness, thinking things through before commenting, honesty, a bit of humility, knowledge, vision, a good heart and so much more - all qualities we want in our Commander-in-Chief.

And then we have Cruz: "Ted Cruz vows to ‘utterly destroy ISIS’ and ‘carpet bomb’ terrorists", Web Link

From that piece; “If I am elected president, we will utterly destroy ISIS," the Texas senator and Republican presidential candidate told reporters. "We won’t weaken them. We won’t degrade them. We will utterly destroy them. We will carpet bomb them into oblivion. We will arm the Kurds. We will do everything necessary so that every militant on the face of the earth will know if you go and join ISIS, if you wage jihad and declare war on America, you are signing your death warrant.”

In his zeal to be the guy with the biggest johnson on the block, Cruz even inferred using nukes!

Today, we have this: "'They don't understand warfare': Why 'carpet bombing' ISIS would be counterproductive", Web Link

"Republican presidential hopeful and US Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) has advocated "carpet bombing" ISIS "into oblivion" to destroy the terrorist group. GOP rival Donald Trump has made similar comments, though a bit more colorfully."

"But experts have cast doubt on this approach, saying it likely wouldn't prove effective."

"You have to be deliberately ignorant of the nature of ISIS … [and] of the limits of air power to advocate carpet bombing," Christopher Harmer, a former US Navy officer and currently a senior naval analyst at the Institute for the Study of War, told Business Insider.

He added: "People who use that terminology don't understand ISIS and they don't understand warfare."

So nice to finally see someone with knowledge and reason calmly explain, or at least try to, just how big a fool and ignorant Cruz is.


The Obama / Clinton / Kerry cabal has set the mideast on fire, yet all that the TA babblemouth can do is complain about Ted Cruz and other Republican nominees for president. But that's what hyperpartisan babblemouths do.


Must be awkward when the facts don't line up with reality. Even more awkward when one's preferred candidate is a liar and a pompous ass. I suspect it is really hard to spin so many lies, so much anger and an unparalleled level of self-importance.

Supporting all the hate that Cruz brings to the table is a very difficult task indeed. Glad I'm not a Cruz fan.

Had the GOP actually brought a leader to the game, we wouldn't be having this conversation, would we? It would have been so sweet if the GOP had a leader - a uniter with vision - to offer.

Instead, we see a select few try to mis-direct, change the topic and spin the truth. Good Luck with that.

"Carpet bomb" - As If.


^^^ As If. ^^^

George's inner Valley Girl emerges once again.


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