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Who and What is Ben Carson?

Well, for starters he's one of the republican offerings for consideration for President of these United States.

He was the Director of Pediatric Neurosurgery at Johns Hopkins Hospital in Maryland from 1984 until his retirement in 2013. He also graduated from Yale, getting his MD at the University of Michigan. Web Link

He's also written a book (1990) that he hopes will sell well along the campaign trail. The autobiography is titled "Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story".

There is some very impressive stuff in his resume. It all starts, of course, with his origin; a kid growing up on the mean streets of Detroit, a City with no shortage of history and troubles. All this conjures up quite an impressive image; tough black kid growing up on the mean streets of Detroit, having to learn to 'take care of himself' through violence until one day he almost killed another, attempting to stab the person. He lunged so hard, he said, that the blade broke on the belt buckle. Thank God for the belt buckle, huh? It was that moment that allegedly turned him around spiritually and drove him to all the accomplishments he's had.

There is a bit of a rub though. It's always something, huh? Well, reporters have been and continue to dig deeper into the good doctor's past - both the past he offers and what really happened. Here are a few links that provide contradictory facts to the good doctor's comments:

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Not to fret. We're sure this is all just a misunderstanding created by an over zealous mainstream media that is so liberal they'll say and do anything to besmirch a conservative.

Reporters are on scene asking questions as I write this. I'm sure we'll get to the bottom of all this bologna, and soon.


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"Carson got caught: Who stands to benefit", Web Link

Damn liberal press! Hey Ben, say it ain't so.

And through it all, the GOP eats their own looking now and jockeying for Carson's supporters and resources; "The main question now is whether the revelation will quickly drive Carson out of the race. And if it does, where will his growing cadre of supporters go? One significant beneficiary of a Carson exit could be Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas, who is trying to appeal to the same base of conservative Christians."

You can bet that phone lines across the country are abuzzing!

What a shame. Another liar exposed ... and how foolish his supporters must now feel, being duped by 'the good doctor'. I'd sure be embarrassed if I had fallen for Carson's spiel.


^^^ Hey Ben, say it ain't so. ^^^

He already did:

Web Link

And the creepy hacks at Politico have yet to respond.

But it's good to see that the repugnant Left has now come to believe that a candidate's background is important. God knows they weren't that concerned with Obama's lies, fabrications and dubious background.


"... creepy hacks ..." nice, very nice. When one doesn't like the facts, just attack the messenger; tried and true.

"But it's good to see that the repugnant Left has now come to believe that a candidate's background is important." Yeah, ahem, about that birth certificate ....

What a blatant hypocrite. Is that really the best you can do, francis? Heck, you've been crawling up this guy's backside for quite a while now, defending him while chastising others - and this is the best you've got?

Damn that Politico, huh? Well then, how do you explain the two (2) CNN pieces and the CNBC piece? And all the pieces that are to follow along?

Damn that liberal press; the nerve - going to all that trouble to 'trust but verify' a Presidential candidate's claims.


The story says that the campaign is only denying that they made an admission of the lie, right? They didn't deny the lie itself.

It should be very easy to get to the bottom of the story.

Lying about such things to self-aggrandize is an incredible sign of weakness. You're too stupid to calculate the odds of being discovered, even though it's in black and white in your book, and you would have to feel incredibly insecure to lie about such things.

The guy is obviously not POTUS material, but, if true, this could finally convince the teabaggers that they should pass on Ben.


^^^ Damn that liberal press; the nerve - going to all that trouble to 'trust but verify' a Presidential candidate's claims. ^^^

Too bad they didn't look so closely into Obama's past.


They did. It was like Benghazi. Nada mucho. All teabaggers got was a kick me sign on their backs.


I take it back. There was A LOT of outrage manufactured and, like the Confederate Flag, birtherism served as a means to identify dangerously stupid people.


"Coasters" can't even keeps its story straight.

But since it knows so much, perhaps it can tell us Obama GPA. As the smartest person in the room, Obama should be bragging about it.


Yes, I'm a regular Ben Carson, aren't I?


Oh No you don't! Start your own thread if it's Obama you want to discuss. This one is about a liar by the name of Ben Carson who, aside from actually believing the Egyptian pyramids were grain silos and spouted that gay is contagious and a choice, has now been busted for lying; and the stories just keep coming: "Ben Carson reportedly lied about West Point scholarship", Web Link

And you, sir francis, have been his number one BBF and supporter. How's that make you feel? We already know how that makes you look.

So what does that say about your abilities to make a reasoned, informed choices? Doesn't look good, does it? Kindda is a poor reflection on your judgment, isn't it?

I'd feel bad for you if you didn't so deserve it. Have a great day, francis. Don't let anyone mess with your tinfoil hat. It looks nice ... really.


Apparently Carson doubled down on his fairy tale stating he would have had to forgone med school if he'd leapt at the (delusional) chance to be a Ring knocker . As anyone with ANY experience with the military knows, that is patently false.


^^^ Is that really the best you can do, francis? ^^^

You can't do any better than the truth. You should try it instead of peddling media hit pieces as fact.


Just such an amateur mistake.


Read his book, Francis. It's all there.

Oopsie!


Sigh. Seems the biased shallow thinkers on this forum prefer biased and shallow reporting over the truth. Here's what Carson actually wrote in his autobiography:

At the end of my twelfth grade I marched at the head of the Memorial Day parade. I felt so proud, my chest bursting with ribbons and braids of every kind. To make it more wonderful, We had important visitors that day. Two soldiers who had won the Congressional Medal of Honor in Viet Nam were present. More exciting to me, General William Westmoreland (very prominent in the Viet Nam war) attended with an impressive entourage. Afterward, Sgt. Hunt introduced me to General Westmoreland, and I had dinner with him and the Congressional Medal winners. Later I was offered a full scholarship to West Point. I didn’t refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn’t where I saw myself going.

Here's what the political hacks at Politico said he said:

Ben Carson’s campaign on Friday admitted, in a response to an inquiry from POLITICO, that a central point in his inspirational personal story was fabricated: his application and acceptance into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point.

Furthermore, Politico lied when they wrote that the Carson campaign admitted "fabricating" that aspect of his personal story.

The great young Ben Shapiro has more on the story, including comments from WaPo's Dave Weigel that support Carson's claims while undermining the ludicrous story in Politico:

Web Link

It's so nice to see what the OP and "Coasters" consider to be high-quality and truthful news reporting.


Nice try, but this looks to have legs, even though it was a silly, delusional little lie on Carsons behalf. Watch and see!


My own personal favorite glimpse into The Mind of Ben:

Web Link

He doesn't believe that the pyramids are grain silos because there's any proof, he just believes it. It's hard to argue with that sort of critical reasoning. ;-)

Oddly, he's part of a religious group that has a core belief in "investigation" before reaching a conclusion.

Oopsie.


"It's so nice to see what the OP and "Coasters" consider to be high-quality and truthful news reporting." Interesting.

So far, and it's just the start of it all, I have Politico, CNN (twice), MarketWatch and CNBC listed above. I just got back in, so I'll take a look and see who else if "fabricating" the good doctor's history. Oh, I might add that this whale of a story isn't just in his book. Oh, no, Carson is so enthralled with the story that he felt the need to repeat it recently on a late night show.

francis, you sure can pick 'em.


"Ben Carson reportedly lied about West Point scholarship", Web Link

Well now, that didn't take long, did it? So, add Yahoo News to the list of sources. Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go look for more.

No need to be concerned; I'll post what I find.


YouTube video of Ben on Charlie Rose saying more about his full scholarship.

Web Link


Although the story is snowballing (imagine that) with now plenty of "sources", the most important story ... the one that nails it, might well be this one: "Ben Carson admits he lied about West Point scholarship, insists stories about troubled childhood are true", Web Link

Classic response from one caught in a lie - 'yeah, I lied about this ... but told the truth about that'. I'm sure there is a medical term for that (sociopath?, psychopath?, moron, etc), but I'm not qualified to choose the best one.

So, is there a secret handshake, or slight nod while talking? What is 'the signal' he provides that let's us know what he is saying is true? How are we to know the difference when he blesses us with his oratory and writing skills?

You know, I'm just not that smart, so what I'm going to do is simply expect that every utterance from the 'good doctor' is a lie - past, present and in the future.

For those that may be concerned with that posture; don't give it a second thought. I'm sure nobody, other than us few, have seen the news - they'l never know.

The Egyptian pyramids were built as grain silos? Well, the 'good doctor' says so, so it must be!

What a complete embarrassment for the GOP - they deserve every bit of what they get in backlash. Now, if you'll excuse me once again; I want to go watch the news looking for all the variations of damage control and watching as name after name distance themselves from the latest GOP Liar.


The political wrangling and drama going on now reminds me of the press' stories about Obama's pastor, Hilary's emails, Bill Clinton's womenizing, etc. I think that Dr. Carson should have shared with the public the stories about his three grown sons and their accomplishments. Each of these politicians for national and state office are put through the wringer and scrutinized.


^^^ No need to be concerned; I'll post what I find. ^^^

Yahoo is simply repeating the proven lies in the Politico hit piece verbatim, some of which have already been debunked by the Carson campaign as well as Dave Weigel of the Washingtom Post.

We already know that George Mutess is not concerned with the truth about what Dr. Carson actually wrote and actually said. We already know that George Muteff is incapable of processing facts such as Army ads touting "full scholarships" to West Point cadets.

^^^ I think that Dr. Carson should have shared with the public the stories about his three grown sons and their accomplishments. ^^^

They're not running for president, and it may not be a good idea to make them cannon fodder for the repugnant Left. But you never know, he may start mentioning them on his FB account where he posts every evening. (He uses those posts to answer questions from his supporters.)

I know one thing for sure -- the Left is terrified that Ben Carson will peel off 20% or more of the black vote, votes The Inevitable Madam Hillary needs to win. That's why they jump on lies disguised as news articles, no matter how ludicrous the lies.


I wonder if the execrable George Muteff lifted a finger to learn what Dr. Carson had to say about the Politico hit piece.

Not really. I already know that he didn't, because he's really not concerned with the truth. Same goes for "Coasters."


Of course they are Seal ("put through the wringer and scrutinized"), as well they should be - but it appears you've missed the point entirely here.

Allow me to start by saying that all cadets get a free ride at West Point. That's one of the many things that makes being "accepted" there and other military academies so prestigious. There is one little catch though - one has to first Apply! Seems Carson forgot that step, but with all the stabbings, attempts to hit his Mother in the head with a hammer and all the fights the good doctor participated in one can understand his forgetting to apply.

What is probably more important, however, is that Carson lied about this matter in his 1990 autobiography! So he's been a liar all along, over the last 25 years. It is only now, as an actual republican Presidential candidate, that he was caught. Let's not forget that important point ... and it is an important distinction.

Sure doesn't say much for the GOP's vetting of candidates, does it?


Here's CNN on the Politico 'scoop': Web Link

It's unlikely that George Muteff will follow the link, so I'll quote the essential part here:

What initially looked like a disaster for Ben Carson could now be a major black eye for Politico.


"I know one thing for sure --" Oh, that is truly rich. Just as you knew Carson well enough to support him consistently, regardless of the facts presented, by personally attacking folks on this board that didn't like Carson? Name calling, slander, your own set of facts...and in the end, it was all for naught.

Denial is such an ugly cologne (but you knew that already).


^^^ Sure doesn't say much for the GOP's vetting of candidates, does it? ^^^

Actually, it says a lot about the bias of George Muteff as well as his inabiltity to know when he's getting the wool pulled over his eyes.

Just think how he'll react when he realizes that Hillary Clinton lied about here emails, her email server or what caused the Benghazi attack. Admittedly, her actions as SoS from a few years ago aren't as important to George Muteff as Dr. Ben Carson's recollections of a few transformative incidents when he was a teenager, but they may disturb him nonetheless.


Borowitz:

"Carson plummets in polls amid reports he did not stab anyone"

Web Link


^^^ regardless of the facts presented ^^^

What facts? You've done nothing but present articles that lie about what wrote and lie about what the Carson campaign "admitted" regarding West Point.

The facts are very simple. If you were capable of thinking clearly you could list them here without the need to present a link to another article that repeats the lie.

But you're really not capable of thinking clearly on matters such as these, are you?


Whatever you say, francis. I'd be embarrassed to no end too, if I had been dumb enough to actually believe in this guy - enough to put my name to his; but I wasn't and you were. Ouch!

"If you were capable of thinking clearly ..." - well, I'm thinking clearly enough to know Carson won't get my vote, any of my money and none of my trust; but then I tend to be selective about who I share any of that with.

Gee, I hope you don't let this little kerfuffle mess up your weekend, francis. I wouldn't worry too much were I you. There are still a bunch of other GOP morons left running for Prez. Take your pick.


oh, btw francis: "Ben Carson reportedly lied about West Point scholarship", Web Link

I'm going to make this as easy as I know how for you. The link takes us to a very short video. It is Carson's Charlie Rose appearance and the length of the clip is approximately 1:00 (one minute). That is easy enough (point and click) and short enough (attention span issues) that even you should be able to grasp the gravity of your man's errors in judgment.

You likely believe the pyramids were built as grain silos, too - don't you? You are so gullible.

This completely unnecessary, thought out lie is going to hurt more than just 'the good doctor'. He has shined the light on his religion, too. I suspect that 'church' will feel the love. He has hurt other people of color's chances going forward.

But worst of all - he has messed with the head of the gentleman from Gualala - and we just can't have that!


I'm not voting for Dr. Carson. However, George I read some of his history. His single Mother worked 2-3 jobs as a maid/domestic. She was hospitalized occasionally to treat her mental illness. Ben and his brother Curtis had many experiences both good and bad.

What I'm driving at is yes you are correct that he misrepresented the West Point story.

When my brothers and sisters get together there are events that my brother shares and I share from our past that some of my siblings don't remember happening. I remember most of the events because I was the youngest but my big sister doesn't. We didn't know one of my brothers was suffering from severe depression. We sometimes wonder why some of us have different memories of the past and we were raised by the same parents in the same house for 25 years. I think it is possible that Dr. Carson did and thought what he says happened to him. He sounded like a lonely little boy.


^^^ I'm not voting for Dr. Carson. ^^^

That's irrelevant. What is relevant is that Politico wrote a hit-piece on Dr. Ben Carson, which was then picked up by other left-leaning websites and news outlets before Politico changed both its headline and the article itself. Weak-minded or dishonest people like George Muteff revel in such despicable and deceptive "journalism."

^^^ What I'm driving at is yes you are correct that he misrepresented the West Point story. ^^^

Unless you're willing to make a distinction without a difference, he did not "misrepresent" his West Point story.

Carson advanced to a high ROTC rank faster than anyone before him. He was a brilliant high school student. Carson would have been admitted to West Point in a heartbeat.

Carson never said nor wrote that he "applied" to West Point. That is a lie now emblazoned into small minded folks like George Muteff. In fact, Carson wrote (and said) that he only had enough money to apply to one college. (That one college wasn't West Point.) He also wrote (and said) that he told Westmoreland (and others) that he would choose a different path than West Point.

Carson never said or wrote that he was "admitted" to West Point. That was one of the lies in the Politico piece that George Muteff gleefully peddles as fact. At best, he states or implies that he would have been admitted. Does the cheap shot peddler George Muteff want to argue that he wouldn't have been accepted to West Point? The idiot will argue anything to denigrate Republicans, so he probably would.

Neither Carson nor his campaign ever "admitted" to Politico that Carson "fabricated" his West Point story. When that lie was exposed, Politico changed both its headline and its story. It is unclear which "story" they stand behind, but we already know which one George Muteff desperately wants to be true.

The Army advertised "full scholarships" for West Point cadets. Only George Muteff and his ilk are shocked that others would use the same phrase.

As for the CNN hit-pieces that have obviously had their intended effect on weak-minded fools like George Muteff, how does lack of confirmation by 9 classmates that wouldn't know about the hammer or knife incidents prove that those stories are fabrications?

Dr. Carson never wrote or said that he was ill-tempered before becoming religious. Instead he wrote (and said) that he was incapable of controlling fits of rage when he didn't get his way. Perhaps, as chief forum idioit, George Muteff wants to argue that such a condition in young black males living in ghettos is uncommon. God knows he's willing to peddle any nonsense that puts his "enemies" in a bad light.

The truth is on Carson's side, so I believe he will survive these cheap shots that were likely fed to Politico and CNN.

George and his ilk will have to do much better to take down the good Dr. Carson. Contrived accusations of "stolen valor" and never being a bad kid are rather underwhelming stories to all but the viciously biased like George Muteff.


Somebody was up and at 'em early this morning. Couldn't sleep? Something bothering you?

West Point has always been known as a prestigious military college. Admission to West Point is different from most colleges and universities across the country; "Being accepted for admission to the United States Military Academy (USMA) at West Point is an exceptional honor reserved for our nation’s most promising students. But it takes more than excellent grades to be accepted for admission. West Point wants leaders who are not only intelligent, who are physically fit and of outstanding character. Those who are selected to attend USMA receive a college education that is unparalleled in the world with tuition, room and board, and expenses fully paid." - That comes from here - Web Link

I would draw your attention to the last sentence; "... with tuition, room and board, and expenses fully paid."

Here's what 'the good doctor' had to say on this matter:"I was offered a full scholarship to West Point," Carson wrote in the 1996 book. "I didn't refuse the scholarship outright, but I let them know that a military career wasn't where I saw myself going. As overjoyed as I felt to be offered such a scholarship, I wasn't really tempted."

"Carson has repeated the story over the years, including in an interview in October with talk-show host Charlie Rose." You can find that here: Web Link

The 'good doctor' has, at the very least, embellished his background and at most lied. As 'the good doctor' has stepped up in the political world to cast himself as a Presidential candidate, one would expect some degree of honesty. One would also expect anyone with the ability to take a hard look at 'the good doctor's' past.

One can point fingers an call others names all one wants, but the facts remain ... those pesky facts. Carson lied, is now being combative about it (defensive) and his political career is now over. That was quick, huh? He is getting what he deserves. In fact, if I had been foolish enough to actually purchase his book, I'd be knocking on 'the good doctor's' door right now getting a refund and returning that pile of bile back to it's origin.

Stick a fork in this one - it's done. Next!


There are so many stories on this that it was easy to find one. The hardest part was choosing which one to share, but this one works; "Ben Carson Admits to Lying About Getting Into West Point", Web Link

From this piece: "Dr. Ben Carson, the former pediatric neurosurgeon turned unlikely front-runner for the Republican presidential nomination, has been caught in another lie. But unlike misrepresentations about how prisons cause homosexuality or that handguns could have stopped the Holocaust, this lie has the potential to seriously derail the doctor's bid for the White House."

"On Friday morning, Carson's campaign admitted to Politico that Carson had fabricated stories about being accepted into the U.S. Military Academy at West Point, first detailed in his 1996 memoir Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story. The confession tears a significant hole in Carson's compelling personal narrative, which has been a major selling point in his quest for the Republican nomination."

"He considered [applying], but in the end did not seek admission," campaign manager Barry Bennett told Politico. Carson's admission comes at a time when journalists and political rivals have raised numerous questions regarding the authenticity of other incidents in the retired surgeon's putative biography, particularly an often-repeated claim by Carson that, as a youth, he had attempted to stab a close friend or family member.

Two things jump out here; 1) a liar is a liar, period - and it certainly appears as though we have a GOP Presidential candidate that is a Liar 2) Great pic to this story. General Carson looks impressive, huh? If only ..... or should that read as if ....


potential correction; "... and it certainly appears as though we have a GOP Presidential candidate that is a Liar" might have been more accurate had it read "... and it certainly appears as though we have a(other) GOP Presidential candidate that is a Liar"

That determination is at the discretion of the reader, of course.


This conversation is becoming quite combative here on Talk About. I wish the authors of this blog could raise above the negativity.

The doctor isn't done. The comments about West Point will go the way of other hits on Hillary, Trump,etc. The race for the presidency is a long and winding path. It's a marathon of Iron Man dimensions. The negativity Hillary, Bernie, now Carson gets is part of that long winding path.


A good example of what illustrates my observation of running for the highest office in the land can be seen on "The View" when Joy Behar started disrespecting Fiorina about her looks during the last debate. Joy Behar has epitomized some of the lowest levels that the media will go to disparish people she doesn't support. She is rude and displays her bias regularly. She rationalizes it as her comedic right. The best thing to do is to weigh carefully what is being shared. In this particular blog topic they are going after a man who could possibly win the presidency. There is a major sign of fear. I hope we as the voters don't choke on every morsal of fabrication and political bias.


The hit piece on Carson was fabricated. See the next thread.

And Seal is right about the level of discourse here.


"... going after a man who could possibly win the presidency." Not in our lifetime, at least not President of the US.

"There is a major sign of fear." Speaking for yourself, perhaps. From my perspective, it is disgust.

The idea of rationalizing this off as a "hit piece" is, imho, ridiculous. The man wrote what he wrote and has stated what he has stated; pretty straightforward, really. See the many links above to see for yourselves.

I would add here that, as stated many times before on this board - we all make mistakes. How we handle them is part of our measure.

Had this alleged "scholarship" been the sole point, one might blow it off as a misunderstanding - but it isn't. Perhaps Carson should have stayed in the ER or at John's Hopkins because he is making a fool of himself, and by extension the GOP, in his bid for election.

His numerous claims about himself are getting worse, not better. Further, it appears as though he thinks even more of himself than his most ardent supporters: "Ben Carson's Home Is an Eerie Homage to Ben Carson", Web Link I would direct your attention to the 'portrait' of him (seated) at the right hand of God or Jesus. Somebody certainly thinks pretty highly of themselves, huh?

Look, we can go back and forth on this all day and night. Bottom line here is the data is here for all to see and assess. Imho, the guy lied about numerous matters, all of which seem to embellish Carson. The sad part of it all is Carson has had noted success in his field. There is absolutely no reason to embellish, stretch the truth or lie. That, of course, leads any rational individual to ask - Why?

The shame of it all is that Carson doesn't see it that way, and that a few others continue to follow and support that line of thought/action.

I don't want him as my President, that's for sure. Further, I have to believe that with all his stories, collected together, that he stands absolutely zero chance of winning anything.

So, like I said above; Next!


I'm glad that people make a run. It is extremely exhausting just reading about and watching the candidates' experiences. Just like in any contest, people have their likes and dislikes. Your dislike of Dr. Carson is noted. Today, Rubio is the hunted of the day over his use of credit cards. And, tommorow, Trump will be the pinata of the day since he will be on Saturday Night Live tonight.


Well, the guy's CA-RAY-Z, IMHO (to paraphrase Roger Rabbit).

I cannot imagine anyone having had a conversation with him in his office and then deciding that he's the surgeon to scoop out their faulty brain part(s)... POTUS? No elfin' way!


Hmmm, spell check zapped me once more:

elfin'=effin'


"Ben Carson may have fabricated a story about being the 'most honest' student while at Yale", Web Link

The list of mischaracterizations, falsehoods, misrepresentations, lies, partial truths (how much we don't yet know), fabrications ... call them what you like, but the list continues to grow on 'the good doctor'.

From this linked piece: "The Wall Street Journal fact-checked another claim in the retired neurosurgeon's 1990 autobiography, "Gifted Hands," and found more evidence of a potentially fabricated story. The Journal's Reid Epstein reported:"

"Mr. Carson writes of a Yale psychology professor who told Mr. Carson, then a junior, and the other students in the class—identified by Mr. Carson as Perceptions 301—that their final exam papers had “inadvertently burned,” requiring all 150 students to retake it. The new exam, Mr. Carson recalled in the book, was much tougher. All the students but Mr. Carson walked out."

"The professor came toward me. With her was a photographer for the Yale Daily News who paused and snapped my picture,” Mr. Carson wrote. “‘A hoax,’ the teacher said. ‘We wanted to see who was the most honest student in the class.’” Mr. Carson wrote that the professor handed him a $10 bill."

"However, The Journal spoke with Yale Librarian Claryn Spies, who said that there was never a class called Perceptions 301 at the school, and a search of YDN turned up no sign of such a picture."

"It's another confounding instance of inaccuracies in anecdotes about the life and belief system of Carson."

There goes that liberal press again. This time we have Yahoo News, who Everyone knows is full of u-no-what, followed by the Wall Street Journal ... what a rag. Nobody reads that crap anymore anyway.

Why do you suppose the word pathological stands front and center? And this embellisher wants to be your President! Just another day in the life of the GOP. They'll send anyone and say anything to win the WH in 2016. Pitiful.

Frankly, and I never thought I'd say (or write) this, but I would vote for Sarah Palin everyday and twice on Sunday before this Carson gentleman. Yes, she is dumber than a sack of air, but at least what you see is what you get. This Carson fellow appears to be a pathological liar who seems to believe that he can say or do whatever he wants to whenever he wants to. While that may be true in his very small part of his world, that won't work in the real world and certainly isn't a 'quality' I want in my President.


I would like to see every Presidential candidate asked how old they believe the earth is and why.


Some people are really digging deep to try to find some dirt on Carson from 35 years ago now that the Westpoint hit piece fell through about something from 40 years ago.


It is WAY too late for the "move along, nothing to see here" dismissiveness from some of the posters here on TA.

Ben has AT LEAST seriously embellished and, shall we say, "imagined" things in a way that weren't exactly REAL.

This scrutiny will continue as long as he's a front runner. It's part of the deal.

He's slipping in Iowa and already behind in NH.


Ya know, there IS a simple, realistic answer for Carson's ... uh ... inability to distinguish between fact and fiction. He's a doctor, for goodness sakes.

The prescription world is at his fingertips 24/7/365!

May I interest anyone in some Oxycoton? Oh, who am I fooling? The 'good doctor' has access to drugs I haven't even heard of.

Oh, btw, more on that Westmorland meeting - we remember ... the meeting where Westmorland was so impressed with Carson and his ROTC efforts that the General offered Carson a 'free ride' to West Point, which Carson declined: "Carson’s Westmoreland story doesn’t match records", Web Link

Imagine that - Carson's story doesn't seem to match with the facts. What a shocker!

From this linked piece: "Carlisle, Pa. — Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson’s published account of having dinner with a top commander in the Vietnam War after marching in a Memorial Day parade in 1969 as a high school ROTC cadet in Detroit does not match historical records."

"In Carson’s 1990 best-selling autobiography, “Gifted Hands: The Ben Carson Story,” the neurosurgeon tells of being offered a scholarship to West Point as a high school senior sometime after having dinner with the U.S. Army’s chief of staff, Gen. William Westmoreland, on Memorial Day 1969."

"But Westmoreland’s personal schedule shows the general was not in Detroit on Memorial Day or during the days preceding and following the holiday. His schedule says he was in and around Washington, D.C., that weekend, according to Army archives The Detroit News reviewed Friday."

The good news is that this is from The Detroit News, another real rag we're sure. So we should probably ignore this one, too? Damn press. They really know how to mess up a perfectly good lie ... I mean story, don't they?


How forgiving of these "vague" memories and assertions of Ben's should we be?

I suggest we put on our best Trey Gowdy suit and act like Ben's full of bad intent and spend as much time and money necessary to expose that badness.

If we don't find anything evil, Dems benefit from the continuous smearing of him.

That's just and fair, right?


I know, why don't you be as forgiving with Mr. Carson as you would be with Hillary? Now we're talking.

The guy's a liar, simple as that. Not surprising he's running for POTUS, actually. But to vote for an admitted liar to be POTUS, well that's going a bit far...


Andy Borowitz, in a New Yorler piece, seems to think Carson is onto something; "Carson: Loss of Keystone Leaves U.S. With No Place to Store Grain", Web Link

From his piece; "Carson said that as President, he would seek additional places to store grain, such as “the hollowed-out heads on Mt. Rushmore.”

“A nation’s greatness is measured by its ability to store grain,” he said. “I will return America to its former greatness.”

I just don't see the problem. We already know that the Egyptian pyramids were built to store grain, so we can just build a few, as needed, here in the US - to maintain our greatness, of course, although starting off with what's already there (Mt Rushmore heads) seems to be the most expedient method for starters (good idea Ben).

One can only wonder if Ben is laughing too.


Another Borowitz piece via the New Yorker, for your reading pleasure: "Carson Plummets in Polls Amid Reports He Did Not Stab Anyone", Web Link

From this piece: "DES MOINES (The Borowitz Report)—New reports indicating that Ben Carson might not have actually stabbed anyone during his youth have sent the retired neurosurgeon plummeting in the latest Republican Presidential polls."

"In Iowa, where Carson was the front-runner before the non-stabbing bombshell hit, voters like Carol Foyler, of Des Moines, expressed dismay and disillusionment that the retired doctor might have fabricated his stabbing exploits to make himself more appealing to Republican voters."

“I was on the fence about Ben Carson, but the stabbing thing really won me over,” she said. “Now, I don’t know what to think.”

Can't say as I blame her. I don't know what to think about all this either.


^^^ I know, why don't you be as forgiving with Mr. Carson as you would be with Hillary? Now we're talking. ^^^

Hillary lied to cover up her quid pro quo dealings. She unequivocally lied to cover up her role in the tragedy at Benghazi.

And you're upset because Carson fended off false accusations that he "applied" to West Point or intimated that he was offered a "full scholarship" to West Point?

You have to be a biased hypocrite to equate the two. And concerned that Carson could actually beat Hillary Clinton by pulling a modest portion of the black vote from her.

That's what the repugnant Left is worried about, a fact they emphasize with their persistent attacks on him over truly trivial matters.

Heal. Inspire. Revive. Just like Ben does!


Even Trump, Mr Calls 'em Like He Sees 'em, is chiming in: "Donald Trump Calls Controversy Swirling Around Ben Carson 'Very Strange'", Web Link

From this one: "Trump has questioned Carson several times about a childhood story in his autobiography "Gifted Hands" in which Carson described once trying to stab a friend or relative. He also questioned a story Carson has told about hitting his mother with a hammer."

“It's a strange situation when you talk about hitting your mother on the head with the hammer," Trump said on ABC's "This Week." "It's a weird deal going on and I hope it all works out because I don’t want to see Ben have problems over this stuff.” Of course not, Mr Trump; everyone is hoping that Ben doesn't "have problems over this stuff". That's why you are drawing attention to the matter, in hopes it all just goes away, huh Donald?

You can bet The Donald is laughing - maybe enough to make up for the lack of laughter from Ben.


fd: wrong. I not only am not concerned that "Dr." Carson might beat Hillary, I'm not concerned that any GOP candidate will. I am concerned that if The Bern beats Hillary, THEN a GOP candidate has a chance... Heck, I might even vote for them against The Bern, as long as they're not rabid religious zealots (especially the ones that honestly believe their religion and are not just putting on a show).

And thanks for proving my point about prejudiced "voters".

BTW: I'm not upset. You've obviously confused with the (hopefully) now defunct therealmbgrub. I am, have been, and always will be, mbgrub: the one and only. I consider it prima facie that a politician is a crook, a liar, and a cheat. Life's like that. I also consider it stupid to vote for a politician who has lost the ability to keep their transgressions under their hat(s) (as a famous engineer once said, "Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me"). Adolph Nixon taught me that.

And BTW, Hillary was not proven to have done anything wrong in the Benghazi tragedy, not even by the rabid GOP politicians hoping to get her out of the race so that one of their obviously crooked, not to mention incompetent, candidates actually had a chance... F A I L E D!

So sit back and relax... 9 more years (at least) of Democratic POTUS is ahead of you.


Hillary lied to cover up her quid pro quo dealings.

You know EXACTLY as much about the veracity of that statement as we all know about whether or not Ben Carson is a big fat liar.

Zero.


The self inflicted hits just keep on coming: "Ben Carson's Pants on Fire claim that no signer of the Declaration of Independence held office", Web Link

Now either this guy is just a complete buffoon with the IQ of gnat, or he is dumb like a fox (just showing it in an odd way). Carson is either a very intelligent dummy or a dummy. So far, I'd go with door number one, but time will tell.

I make that assessment based on this - Carson now occupies more press than Trump, who we know to be a master of the game show called life.

Oh, here's a clip from this piece: "You are absolutely right — I have no political experience," Carson wrote in the initial version of his post. "The current Members of Congress have a combined 8,700 years of political experience. Are we sure political experience is what we need. Every signer of the Declaration of Independence had no elected office experience. What they had was a deep belief that freedom is a gift from God. They had a determination to rise up against a tyrannical King. They were willing to risk all they had, even their lives, to be free."

We had to know that a comment like that would get attention. It got four (4) Pinocchios from the Washington Post, their worst rating. Question is, did Carson know, suspect or just blindly make stuff up again?

For a smart guy, Carson sue says some really stupid stuff. Does Carson even realize there is a vast diverse world outside the ER?


Archaeologists Believe They Have Found Mysterious Concealed Chambers Inside Tutankhamun's Tomb

Web Link

So far, they have not found stores of grain. Could someone tell Ben?


There is a reason Trump has led the polls for so long; he says what many think and feel, even if it can be and sometimes is crass. But then, that's The Donald we all know and ..., well, ... like. The guy has a clear sense of what many Americans are thinking.

I post all that because of this: "In 4 back-to-back interviews, Donald Trump pointed to Ben Carson's 'pathological disease'", Web Link

From this piece: "In five separate Sunday interviews, real-estate mogul Donald Trump continued to stoke the controversy dogging his leading Republican presidential rival, Ben Carson." Wow; "five (5) separate Sunday interviews", huh? Must be important to Trump. This guy is like a pit bull when he gets on something, as we all know and have repeatedly seen.

More from the piece: "But Trump has homed in on the part of the book in which Carson wrote, "I had what I only can label a pathological temper — a disease — and this sickness controlled me, making me totally irrational." Carson said he later had an epiphany and became the famously soft-spoken man he is today."

"In four of his Sunday interviews, Trump said Carson probably couldn't be cured of that "pathological disease."

This is followed by quotes from the Sunday talk show circuit. Here's the first one, which is very similar to the rest: "He said he has 'pathological disease' in the book. When you have pathological disease, that's a very serious problem because that's not something that's cured. That's something that you have to live with. And that's a very serious thing to have to live with," Trump said on ABC's "This Week."

And we all thought the love was there. So much for Carson getting the VP nod if Trump prevails.

On the flip side, I'll bet good old Sarah is ecstatic now that her chances at a repeat, with a different partner, have just stepped up. Heck, we might even hear about her and her brood in another bar room brawl celebrating the news.


Who and what is Ben Carson?

Sounds like he might be magic. Apparently he was reading Psychology Today at least a year before it was first published.

"“Lord,” I whispered, “You have to take this temper from me. If You don’t, I’ll never be free from it. I’ll end up doing a lot worse than trying to stab one of my best friends.”

Already heavy into psychology (I had been reading Psychology Today for a year), I knew that temper was a personality trait. Standard thinking in the field pointed out the difficulty, if not the impossibility, of modifying personality traits. Even today some experts believe that the best we can do is accept our limitations and adjust to them."

Born in 1951 and, as we're told, attempted to stab his friend at age 14 the year would have been 65/66. Psychology today was first published in 1967.

Stabbing: Web Link

First publish date: Web Link

Born '51: Web Link


Hate to tag along, but this one was just too good to pass up (seems the case with Mr Carson, doesn't it?): "I Took Acid With Ben Carson So You Don't Have To: Read My Lips", Web Link

"It was a strange feeling last Saturday night, and not just because of the window pane, which I hadn't even seen since the early '80s, let alone dropped. But then doctors always do get the best drugs."

"And it wasn't simply because I was dosing (just half a hit at my age) with a candidate for president of the United States. You get over things like celebrity when you're a pro. After hanging out with Hunter Thompson in New York in the late 90s, it would take a lot to throw me off my game."

"No, it was the things Ben Carson was saying while we sat in his basement rec room, shadows cavorting in our eyes from the dancing candles he placed strategically, like the acid veteran he seems to be. It was that I felt like I'd heard these words before, heard them all my life. They were simultaneously comforting and disturbing."

"I don't recommend conducting interviews on LSD, but it's a good way to get your subjects to open up."

"Doc, I know this West Point thing has got you a little weirded out. But, aside from the semantics of the whole thing, what turned you off to the idea?"

"Can't find war nowhere at all. See nothing but sunshine all around."

"Yeah. This is good stuff."

This guy has stolen the spotlight from the Master - Trump, and I don't think Trump is a bit happy about it, either. Trump out-Trumped? Maybe Trump, You're Fired!

Thank you Dr Carson for all the good times you have provided. I can't wait to see what you do next.

PS: Justin, nothing to see there, just move along. We're certain it was that damn liberal press once again just making stuff up because Carson scares Hillary.

I know he sure scares me!


Here's some crow for Spurious George:

Web Link

Save some for JustinStockman!


I just posted that my friend. Are you not checking reference material?


He never does. Our little buddy from Gualala doesn't have time to read your BS, or anyone else's (unless, against very long odds, it agrees with his views). He's too busy searching for "snappy rejoinders" so He can be the constant topic. Most call that a Troll.

Here's yet another Carson themed Op-Ed piece from the Post: "The public’s right to know: Carson and Fiorina don’t get it", Web Link

Here's a segment from the piece: "Carson is in full victim mode after days of reports on perceived inconsistencies in his biography. He tells “Meet the Press” that the vetting applied to him is beyond anything anyone else has had to endure. “I have never seen this before,” he announces. “And many other people who are politically experienced tell me they’ve never seen it before either.” Poppycock. Every candidate must undergo this ordeal — Mitt Romney’s administering a haircut to a fellow prep student was front-page news in 2012. President Obama’s adolescent drug use was examined in 2008."

Still haven't determined, with definite, who and/or what Ben Carson is, but one segment of that puzzle is very clear; the word pathological is prominent.


Coasters: A) Tut's tomb is no a pyramid, so the grain may yet be found in the pyramids ;)

and 2)

"(King Tut)

(King Tut)

Now when he was a young man,

He never thought he'd see

(King Tut)

People stand in line to see the boy king.

(King Tut)

How'd you get so funky?

(Funky Tut)

Did you do the monkey?

Born in Arizona,

Moved to Babylonia

(King Tut)."


I don't doubt the stabbing story. I guess I just don't see any reason to. It seems organic, honest, and as reasonable as a story about an attempted stabbing can be.

What I do doubt are the details. They seem like they were manufactured after the fact to give the story additional meaning, and to paint Mr. Carson in a very specific light. Educated, humbled, pious. And as scrutiny brings many of these little details into question a pattern is emerging. An inaccuracy here or there is one thing, but this is much more.

Im probably guilty of the same exaggeration and selective memory. I'd self promote too if someone wanted to publish a book about me. But then again, I'm not asking for nuclear launch codes.

Mr. Carson would be well served by focusing on honesty and being his organic self in the coming weeks. Otherwise, 2016 is going to make for a pretty boring election year.


Thank you for the laugh, Mr Gruver!


Justin, I very seriously doubt the stabbing story. I would not be surprised if that "knife" was a toy or pen or pencil that broke, not a real knife.

Let's find that little kid whose life was "miraculously" saved by a fortuitiously broken blade. Then make sure he had not been contacted (or paid) in advance for testimony by Carson's team to support the story.

Carson has an issue with the truth.


Coasters the way Dr. Carson told the story was the point of the knife was stopped by the boy's metal belt buckle.


Have you seen belt buckles from that period? Unless the kid was a rodeo cowboy with a butter-dish sized buckle, the story is complete bull-dooky. Do a search on the era's belt buckles. You'd have to be a ninja to hit a 60's belt buckle with a knife point and break its blade.


When I heard the story the knife was stopped by the belt buckle (the belt could have been like a scout buckle with the rectangular buckle that collapsed into itself). I didn't hear about the point being broken.


Here's yet another person's perspective on who and what Ben Carson is: "'Morning Joe' Scarborough: Carson Is Lying and Needs to Come Clean", Web Link

From the piece: "MSNBC "Morning Joe" host Joe Scarborough Monday accused GOP candidate Ben Carson of lying, and urged him to come clean before it's too late."

"You're lying, and you need to come out front and you need to admit it because it's only going to get worse from here," the former congressman said on his show, directly addressing the controversy behind statements Carson made in his autobiography, "Gifted Hands," and since that time.

"You have told me day in and day out the reason why Ben Carson is doing as well as Ben Carson is doing is because of his biography," Scarborough said. "So we have the stabbing of a friend which turns out to be not Bob. We've got the hammer to the mother's head. We're not really sure about that. We got the most honest person in class story, which sounds iffy. We got him shielding people in Detroit riots, locking people up in biology labs to shield them. Everybody, I can't remember that either. We have a [Gen. William] Westmoreland dinner nobody can remember that he got the date wrong on."

"Further, said Scarborough, he has never understood how a story Carson recounted about being held up in a Popeye's works for him."

"I know media bias," he said of the scrutiny surrounding Carson. "This is not media bias. This is just one question after another. It looks like the thread is being pulled and everything's unraveling. What's the impact?"


And let's not forget Trump; "TRUMP: Ben Carson keeps lying!", Web Link

"Real-estate mogul Donald Trump piled on presidential rival Ben Carson after an explosive Friday story revealed he had fabricated his history with West Point."

"WOW, one of many lies by Ben Carson! Big story," Trump reacted on Twitter."

"The Republican businessman also retweeted a series of supporters slamming Carson, such as one who wrote: "How anyone could see him as president baffles me. Lies and insane theories."

I wonder if Trump is pissed about sharing face time in the news? His name has been (relatively) quiet lately. I guess that means the friendship is done, or at least severely altered.


Thomas Sowell is right -- the recent efforts to take down Dr. Ben Carson say more about the media than they do about Dr. Carson:

Web Link

I would only add that it says more about those that eagerly consume and repeat such manure than it does about the good doctor, especially those that continue driving the stories after they've been thoroughly debunked.


Ben Carson, gifted fabulist

by Richard Cohen, Washington Post

Says it pretty clearly:

Web Link


The comments to the article linked by JG say more about the author and WaPo than they do Dr. Ben Carson.

It says even more about those that work overtime to contrive "lies" of Dr. Carson over relatively trivial matters while straining their angry old white necks to look away from far more egregious behavior by Obama (who claimed he was born in Kenya to promote his first autobiography) or Hillary (who was proven to have lied to Americans about Benghazi.

So welcome to the cabal of hypocrites, John Gruver!


Don't you ever get tired? Tired of defending the undependable? Tired of always being on the wrong end of the issue? Tired of just plain being wrong and being arrogant about it.

Do you believe that using colorful adjectives and hyperbole to personally attack others on this board instead of productively arguing the issues makes you appear smart, understanding, intelligent or on the 'inside' track?

All it makes you appear as is the constant fool; a troll, which of course is all you have shown for years now.

What a waste. As you would say; it says more about you than anything else, which is your point, I suppose. That is what trolls seek, isn't it?


Tired of defending the undependable? - should read: Tired of defending the undefendable?


Defend this: Hillary lies and lies again during her presidential bids:

Web Link ..... "during [Clinton's] 2008 run for the White House.. she claimed she and her staff had dodged sniper fire on an airport landing strip in Bosnia.

"But news video of the event revealed it never happened.

"After the video was found that there was no sniper fire, there was no apparent danger on the runway as she claims, she doubled down and said, 'Well, I stopped and you saw pictures of me greeting the young girl, because how could I walk past her and break her little heart? But after that I ran to the car." ..

"The video showed that Clinton "lingered on the runway, took pictures with a group of seventh graders, visited with the troops, [and] took photographs with them."


^^^ Don't you ever get tired? ^^^

That's what I'd expect to hear from a clown that thinks this forum is all about him.

You and your ilk got caught lying about Dr. Ben Carson for shallow partisan purposes. Get used to it. I'm not here to act like a one-armed butler in the face of the drivel you post day in and day out.

^^^ Defend this: Hillary lies and lies again during her presidential bids: ^^^

Pack a lunch if you expect Spurious George to answer that question -- you'll be waiting a long time.

Heal. Inspire. Revive.


"...you'll be waiting a long time." Yup, sure will if you expect me to discuss your warped perspective of Clinton on a thread titled "Who and What is Ben Carson". Unlike you, I try to stay on topic, which is driving you crazy because of the topic. You just hate it when your GOP brothers and sisters mess up, don't you? One would think you'd be used to it by now.

Ben Carson may be a very smart man - jury's still out on that one; but one thing we now know as certain; he is far from the smartest person in the room. He has been and continues to be proven a liar. What makes it all so sad is that he has some sweet distinctions and accomplishments in his life, so where's the 'need' to lie? I don't get it, but then I'm not too concerned about it, either.

Carson has zero chance of getting the GOP nomination, let alone the Oval Office; so until he is smart enough to just do the right thing and step aside, he will continue to be fair game, likely exposing more lies.

Poor Ben and even Poorer francis. All dressed up and nowhere to go? Try being honest and civil for a change. That will produce less of the colorful drama a troll queen like yourself might enjoy, but it will be more productive.


What is Carson supposedly lying about? Saying he was a worse kid than people remember him as? And Democrats think that discredits him!

That's hilarious!!


We are all, of course, tickled that some find amusement with their heads buried firmly in the sand. That, too, is hilarious. The problem, or potential rub there is that while your head is planted firmly, your backside is elevated and exposed to whatever might come along.

Were I you, and I most certainly am not, but if I were, I'd pull my head out ... if, for no other reason that to protect my backside. The fresh air would only be a much needed bonus (and well deserved).

Anyone that can seriously consider Mr Carson as even a candidate, let alone President, now scares the heck out of me. Fortunately, we won't be waiting long for Carson to take the same path as many before him, like Perry, Santorum, Walker, Bachmann, Cruz and the list continues (ad nausium). Oh, did I inadvertently add Cruz to the list of quitters? Sorry ... we'll just wait for that one. Shouldn't be long now.


"At Liberty University, Carson frames his candidacy as spiritual battle", Web Link

Ironic, huh, that a Presidential candidate "frames his candidacy as spiritual battle", while embellishing and lying about his history?

I must have missed the Commandment that states it's OK to lie, so long as it for a US Presidential run. Must have been that darn 11th Commandment. You know, that's the one that dropped between the huge rocks as Moses was descending the mountain top. He had his hands full and just didn't have the time to stop and recover it - so he just moved on.

Even God has to be laughing at that strategy.


Stay up; Politico coped to lying about Carson.


"What is Carson supposedly lying about?"

"Stay up; Politico coped to lying about Carson."

Funny stuff; seems the ones that complain, criticize and ask silly questions are the ones that either don't bother to open and read the vast amount of links provided or they are deliberately being coy. Either way, the answers they seek are right above. All they have to do is get caught up in their current events reading.


^^^ the answers they seek are right above ^^^

In addition to being an intransigient boor, tedious, rude and demanding, you're delusional.

"What is Carson supposedly lying about?"

That's a very siimple question that you can't answer in your own words.


"Ben Carson to Katie Couric on stabbing, Syria, and Trump", Web Link

"In an exclusive interview, Yahoo Global News Anchor Katie Couric asked Republican presidential candidate Dr. Ben Carson about questions surrounding his biography, his rival Donald Trump and his comments on foreign policy."

"On Carson’s refusal to give the name of the person he tried to stab as a teenager, he told Couric he would reveal the name with conditions: “I do have this deal to make. If the media will promise that they will not bother this person or any of the other people, and if they promise that they will be honest, truthful and apply everything to everyone equally from now on, I will reveal the truth. Is that fair?”

Couple of things; 1) this guy has got to be the dumbest smart person out there, but certainly the dumbest smart guy in the race & 2) what did he expect as a candidate, a free ride just because it's Him and he seems to believe that He sits on the right hand of Jesus? Really? Trump's right, this guy has serious issues that likely can't be cured.

There's plenty more to the piece than the sliver I quoted, but to me it's not worth repeating. The reason? Simple; while I'm reading the piece, I can't help but think of a few things - * here's a guy that is running for President and is running based on who he thinks he is ... his history - yet he now doesn't want anyone to talk about ... his history! Neat trick. I have to wonder, then, what Carson would choose to talk about, because it sure isn't the issues. He doesn't seem to have a clue, but then the Egyptian pyramids storing all that grain, making Egypt a super power should be a clue.

So while reading this piece, you might want to think about what is being said, by whom, vs what you would rather see said (hint; like Presidential issues, vision, unity, education, middle class, jobs, tax code, Energy Policy, foreign relations, etc). That's what I was thinking, which shows me just what a (smart?) loser Carson is.

The good news for Ben? He's not alone!


PS: instead, we have a guy that seems to think he's Monte Hall of Let's Make a Deal! Maybe Carson's next Real calling is show biz? Maybe, instead of fussing with The Donald, Ben should work out a deal for a reality show ... but I'd suggest he hire someone actually qualified to negotiate ... and move on with his life while leaving ours alone (although the entertainment value will be missed when he drops out).

Bless his little heart...


^^^ I just posted that my friend. Are you not checking reference material? ^^^

Sometimes, I do, but only if provided in support of your argument. If you don't make one, I don't check it out.

Besides that, none of the links you provided were to the (left-leaning) Media-ite website I linked that strongly suggest CNN's and Politico's research departments are less than stellar. Seems a quick web search found a quote from Dr. Carson's mother that supports his telling of the stabbing incident.

Sorry if I incorrectly put you in the "Carson's Pants-On-Fire crowd."

That leaves more crow for George! Not that he knows the story has advanced since his first breathless post on the matter.


"Dr. Ben Carson: The Most Dangerous Man in Politics", Web Link

Here's how this one starts out: "Dr. Ben Carson is the most dangerous man in politics. I'm not alluding to the facets of Carson's campaign that seem most alarming."

"And there are many such facets."

"Carson is a climate change denier. He is an anti-evolution religious zealot. He has absolutely no political experience. He has compared Obamacare and abortion to slavery. He believes the great pyramids were grain silos. He thinks a Muslim should not be allowed to be president. He believes that prison makes people gay."

"His campaign is based almost entirely on his apparently embellished rags-to-riches tale. He has the distinctive sociopathic characteristic of lying without a hint of self-consciousness. On last Sunday morning's Face The Nation news program Carson appeared on a split screen - one side showing a prior interview during which he stated that he was offered a full scholarship to attend West Point. On the live screen he claimed that he never said he was offered a full scholarship to attend West Point. He didn't even blink."

"He is surely the only presidential candidate in history to boast of having attacked his mother with a hammer. When the story was questioned, he angrily denounced the "liberal media" for doubting that he attempted matricide."

"As I scan back over this very partial summary of Carson's presidential "qualifications" I shudder to think that 25-30% of Republican primary voters believe he is the best candidate. But those things may not be what make him most dangerous."

There's more? That's not it, yet? Wow.

This piece is the opinion of one Steve Nelson, Head of the Calhoun School in Manhattan. While I can see and understand his point(s), I don't know that I agree with his assessment of Carson as "The Most Dangerous Man in Politics". Personally, I don't believe that Carson has a snowball's chance in Hell of getting the GOP nomination and although the GOP is always happy to get attention (which Carson provides), I have to believe that behind the scenes the GOP 'leadership' shutters at the mention of Carson's name, and with good cause (see prior excerpts from this piece).

Carson is, if nothing else, an interesting cowboy, but I suspect that come election day, 2016, Carson will be little more than another footnote in US election history - who made a bundle off book sales and fantasy.


blah blah, blah blah, blah blah.


The comment above from our esteemed Gualala little buddy is the same comment we have received daily for years now on Obama, Clinton, Iran, global warming, Planned Parenthood, ACA, religion, ethnicity and all else not tea party. And he thought it all up all by himself!

Thank goodness for consistency.


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