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How can we miss you if you won't go away?

Finally John Boehner does what he should have done long ago: resign. When will we have a chance to "miss" Mitch McConnell too? They are both standing in the way of their party and progress by acting like Democrats.

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Republicans voted 54 times to repeal Obamacare. That's Boehner's legacy.

Calling that "acting like a Democrat" is ludicrous.


You don't need to act like a Democrat to capitulate to their agenda, which has the same effect as acting like a Democrat when it counts.

Time to get someone capable of articulating conservative values and willing to push back against Obama's radical policies.

It's time to take the DC establishment down a few notches and get the federal government out of our everyday lives as the Founders intended.


It's starting with McConnell already:

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The young Tom Cotton could do a better job than that old fool.


"Kasich on GOP agitators: "What have they accomplished?", Web Link

"Ohio Gov. John Kasich had sharp words Sunday for members of his own party who are promising change but don't have the record to show they can deliver it."

"It's about inexperience. I mean, the people who keep saying that they want things to happen, what have they accomplished? What have they gotten done?" the 2016 Republican candidate said on CBS' "Face the Nation" Sunday. "When I served [in Congress], we achieved things, I achieved things."

"In a separate interview on "Face the Nation," Boehner warned of "false prophets" within the GOP who promise things they can't deliver."

Kasich adds, "So all these people yelling and screaming, ask, you ask them, 'What have you accomplished in the time that you've been in public office?' It would be an interesting question, wouldn't it?"

Yes sir, it would be, starting with Cotton. The GOP is a complete mess; just imploding and we all are witness to it. One would think that after seven years to prepare, we'd at least see a few leaders step up for a shot a the Title (Presidency) and that GOP support would actually be a positive thing.

Some just take a little longer to learn than others. Maybe in 2020?


>>"So all these people yelling and screaming, ask, you ask them, 'What have you accomplished in the time that you've been in public office?'<<

That's the point. Get rid of the road blocks like McConnell and Boehner.


Road blocks?

Not one of these teabaggers have a cogent plan for anything. The suggested replacement for Boehner, McCarthy, has two bills to his name in his 8 years in politics - both to rename facilities. That's some vision.

I'll give you one thing: This should be fun to watch. Kind of like "Don't tell mom the babysitter's dead".


Both George and "Coasters" are clueless about why constitutional conservatives are challenging current Republican leadership, a fact they verify every time they post.


Both George and "Coasters" are clueless about why constitutional conservatives are challenging current Republican leadership, a fact they verify every time they post.

Instead of "neener neener"-ing and name-calling me and George, how about listing all the positive things that the GOP-controlled House is going to do once that dirty ol' rotten John Boehner is out.

Tick-tock, Francis.


^^^ Instead of "neener neener"-ing and name-calling me and George ^^^

Now you sound like a hypocrite. And relentlessly clueless about why the constitutional conservatives oppose current leadership.

Do your own research demanding that others do it for you. Information straight from the horse's mouth is readily available for those that truly want to find it.

In case it can't bring itself do so, here's a decent article on the matter: Web Link


Gee whiz, thanks Frank. That's mighty nice of you to deign to send a link about your imagined issues.

Let's see:

1) Not enough fight against expansion of government while you and your little friends tried to expand speculums at every turn in your War Against Women. You love big government when it comes to legislating your narrow, archaic morality.

2) Not enough fighting against providing medical care for the poor, though you all stand-up and talk about what good little Christians you all are so you get elected by all the dumbasses who actually believe you. Let them eat cake!

3) The tax cuts you keep fighting for are all benefiting the wealthy, not the majority of Republican constituents. Your voters are still buying the trickle down nonsense even after learning it's the urine of the 1% trickling down on them. How stupid can you get?

4) ACA: after 54 lame attempts to repeal, you blame Boehner for admitting that it's the law. You gotta give the guy some credit. He let the little kiddies spin around that ride 54 times before telling them the carnival's over. And HE'S the bad guy? LOL!

In general, you guys are angry because Boehner is living proof that you're irrelevant and that you don't know HOW to use what power you have left.

My advice? Get relevant soon or kiss your teabags good-bye.


From Salon.com...a very nice history in-a-nutshell of the nuttiness we're seeing unfold.

It is time to get very afraid: Extremists, authoritarians now run the GOP — and no one can stop them

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Movement Conservatives just claimed the head of House Speaker John Boehner. His political death was the price of preventing a catastrophic government shutdown after Movement Conservatives in Congress tied the very survival of the United States government to their determination to defund Planned Parenthood.


All this fuss about a new Speaker. Would or will it make any difference if a republican candidate is elected President?

Maybe this is the type of leadership the GOP wants:

1) "Carly Fiorina stubbornly pretends fiction is fact", Web Link

"The novice White House candidates have every reason to be pleased with their current standing, but they nevertheless find themselves at a crossroads, The Amateur Trio of Donald Trump, Ben Carson, and Carly Fiorina – who, between them, have zero days of experience in public office – have done well enough in the cycle’s opening round to claim first-tier status."

"For a candidate like Fiorina, the goal appears to be demonstrating – to voters, to donors, to potential endorsers, et al – that she’s the real deal. She may have struggled badly in the private sector, and she may have failed in her only other bid for public office – Fiorina lost a Senate campaign in 2010 in her home state by double digits – but the Republican is eager to prove that’s she’s a legitimate presidential contender anyway."

"Brazen dishonesty is likely to make that task far more difficult."

"Carly Fiorina on Sunday stood by her disputed description of a scene from the videos targeting Planned Parenthood, but refused to say definitively that Republicans should force a government shutdown to defund the organization."

“Not at all. That scene absolutely does exist, and that voice saying what I said they were saying – “We’re gonna keep it alive to harvest its brain – exists as well,” Fiorina said on NBC’s “Meet the Press.” […] In a testy exchange with host Chuck Todd, Fiorina repeatedly insisted that the practice she described “is happening.”

"Except, it’s not. She’s still lying." This from MSNBC

2) or perhaps this one "Fiorina, pressed on Planned Parenthood, becomes even more extreme", Web Link

"Fiorina was so insistent that she had seen and heard things on videotapes purporting to show babies aborted by Planned Parenthood, and made such an outrageous new charge, that host Chuck Todd had trouble keeping up. Her insistence on telling lies about Planned Parenthood could undermine one of her prime defenses against critics of her 1999-2005 performance as head of Hewlett-Packard, which is that the critics are telling lies about her."

"Todd asked her, "Are you willing now to concede that you exaggerated that scene?"

Fiorina: "No, not at all. That scene absolutely does exist. And that voice saying what I said they were saying, 'We're going to keep it alive to harvest its brain' exists as well...."

Todd: "So you saw that moment on the tape?"

Fiorina: "Yes."

"That's bluster on a Trumpian scale. There's no such scene on the tape to which she's referring, no such audio, and her campaign hasn't identified any."

"But then Fiorina went even further, claiming, "Planned Parenthood is aborting fetuses alive to harvest their brains and other body parts. That is a fact." She added, "Planned Parenthood will not and cannot deny this because it is happening. It is happening in this nation."

"In other words, Fiorina has moved from asserting in effect that Planned Parenthood "harvested" (a loaded word) tissue from a still-live fetus, to claiming that Planned Parenthood deliberately aborts live fetuses for that purpose."

"...first-tier status", huh? Yeah, top drawer stuff here.


"The Blackmail Caucus, a.k.a. the Republican Party", Web Link

"John Boehner was a terrible, very bad, no good speaker of the House. Under his leadership, Republicans pursued an unprecedented strategy of scorched-earth obstructionism, which did immense damage to the economy and undermined America’s credibility around the world."

"Still, things could have been worse. And under his successor they almost surely will be worse. Bad as Mr. Boehner was, he was just a symptom of the underlying malady, the madness that has consumed his party."


^^^ It is time to get very afraid: Extremists, authoritarians now run the GOP — and no one can stop them ^^^

Sounds good to me.

The more the far Left whines about them the better.


Yet one more view of the current GOP; "Anarchy in the House", Web Link

"REPUBLICANS aren’t big fans of Karl Marx, but perhaps they should ponder his observation that history repeats itself first as tragedy, then as farce. As preposterous presidential candidates dominate the polls and extremists topple congressional leaders, the Republican Party is headed for a replay of the catastrophic Goldwater revolt of the early 1960s. It may be an entertaining spectacle, but it’s dangerous."

"But the early 1960s witnessed an overthrow of Taftian realism. The radicals who coalesced around Senator Barry Goldwater’s insurgent presidential campaign were zealots. They had no interest in developing a governing agenda. Their program consisted mainly of getting rid of the New Deal and every other government effort to promote the general welfare. As Goldwater famously wrote: “My aim is not to pass laws, but to repeal them. It is not to inaugurate new programs, but to cancel old ones.” Sound familiar?

"The present resurgence of anti-governing conservatism is also likely to end badly for Republicans. The extremists have the ability to disrupt the Congress, but not to lead it. Their belief that shutdowns will secure real concessions is magical thinking, not legislative realism. And the more power they gain, the less likely it becomes that a Republican-controlled Congress can pass conservative legislation, or indeed any legislation at all."

Yet another individual that sees the current GOP for what it is; confused, obstructionist, ideologue and just plain foolish. As stated in the piece; "It may be an entertaining spectacle, but it’s dangerous."


It's pretty clear that George remains relentlessly clueless about what constitutional conservatives are all about.

Then again, he's foolish enough to oppose following the US Constitution and to continue reckless spending that will impoverish future generations so he can have a comfortable life. It's he and the ilk he supports in Congress that are the radicals, not those that ousted the highly ineffective and back-stabbing John Boehner.


Obstructionists against Obama's extremist agenda are a good thing - whatever it takes to undo some of the damage. Boehner and McConnell don't have the fire in their bellies to do the job and McConnell in particular has always been a big business / massive immigration type. He must go.


More personal attacks, huh? Might I suggest that your 'argument' is with those writing about the GOP's complete meltdown, as listed above.

First, however, you would actually have to open the links and read them. Next, you would have to comprehend what is written (I know that can be a toughie). Then, you would want to attack the facts they present, which you have been unable to do so far.

Sniping about me doesn't address the GOP's meltdown, and it is a complete meltdown. So much so, in fact, that one can easily find piece after piece, on a daily basis, from all corners of the political spectrum on the issue.

Me? I'm just observing, like the rest of the world, the absurdity of the extremists within the GOP fold. It is both hilarious and frightening all at the same time.

To those that can't/won't/don't see the GOP train wreck unfolding for all to see, may I suggest that you step away from the keyboard, do a ton of reading current event articles, maybe watch a little news - trying of course to be objective, and get back to us.

Denial is a lousy substitute for knowledge. The GOP is in serious trouble and it appears it's far from over.


^^^ He must go. ^^^

Agreed. That'a why I was rooting for Allison Grimes. That, and payback for what the establishment did to Chris McDaniel. They have no shame!


The GOP is not in "serious trouble," much as you may wish. There is a movement to strengthen its roots as advocates for smaller government and lower taxes. Currently the GOP is too much like the Democratic Party.


I'll have to look up Allison Grimes. Thanks. (And of course the last one was addressing George.)


"The GOP is not in "serious trouble," much as you may wish." Are you serious?

I guess all the daily stories by a wide breadth of sources is all just my imagination? Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain sort of thing?

The GOP is in very serious trouble. The reason? Well, one of them is clearly the void in anything resembling leadership. That would be an excellent place to start cleaning up. How embarrassing it must be.

As to the "...much as you may wish" comment; I don't wish it at all. It is what it is, however, and to flat deny it merely confirms that some believe what they like to believe despite the overwhelming plethora of facts, actions and comments.

Good Luck with that Denial thing. It will take more than a couple of aspirins to overcome that issue.

It continues to amaze me how absolutely blind and dumbfounded some can be, particularly with such stark daily accountings of the meltdown; just astonishing.


I might remind those in denial that the first step to recovery is admission. That can be a tough proposition, but once there you can actually make a somewhat speedy recovery.

It's getting to that spot that can be hard. Give it a try, ... so we can have a reasonably intelligent discussion on what can be done to 'fix' it.


Here's another view: "The Blackmail Caucus, a.k.a. the Republican Party", Web Link

"John Boehner was a terrible, very bad, no good speaker of the House. Under his leadership, Republicans pursued an unprecedented strategy of scorched-earth obstructionism, which did immense damage to the economy and undermined America’s credibility around the world.

"Still, things could have been worse. And under his successor they almost surely will be worse. Bad as Mr. Boehner was, he was just a symptom of the underlying malady, the madness that has consumed his party."

"There was and is a strong consensus among economists that a temporary period of deficit spending can help mitigate an economic slump. In 2008 a stimulus plan passed Congress with bipartisan support, and the case for a further stimulus in 2009 was overwhelming. But with a Democrat in the White House, Mr. Boehner demanded that policy go in the opposite direction, declaring that “American families are tightening their belts. But they don’t see government tightening its belt.” And he called for government to “go on a diet.”

"This was know-nothing economics, and incredibly irresponsible at a time of crisis; not long ago it would have been hard to imagine a major political figure making such a statement. Did Mr. Boehner actually believe what he was saying? Was he just against anything Mr. Obama was for? Or was he engaged in deliberate sabotage, trying to block measures that would help the economy because a bad economy would be good for Republican electoral prospects?"

"All in all, Republicans during the Boehner era fully justified the characterization offered by the political analysts Thomas Mann and Norman Ornstein, in their book “It’s Even Worse Than You Think.” Yes, the G.O.P. has become an “insurgent outlier” that is “ideologically extreme” and “unmoved by conventional understanding of facts, evidence and science.” And Mr. Boehner did nothing to fight these tendencies. On the contrary, he catered to and fed the extremism."

"So why is he out? Basically because the obstructionism failed."

Is it merely a coincidence that the word extremists is peppered throughout, yet the word compromise is nowhere to be seen?


"Watching much of the proceedings, I was reminded of the congressional committee hearings in early August over the international nuclear agreement with Iran. Republicans had months to prepare their best arguments and sharpest questions, but they fired nothing but blanks. Slate’s William Saletan attended all three hearings and came away flabbergasted: “Over the past several days, congressional hearings on the deal have become a spectacle of dishonesty, incomprehension, and inability to cope with the challenges of a multilateral world…. I came away from the hearings dismayed by what the GOP has become in the Obama era. It seems utterly unprepared to govern.”

You'll find that excerpt here: "Planned Parenthood chief embarrasses GOP rep", Web Link

Lots more interesting material to read about "republican leadership" (oxymoron), but "The GOP is not in "serious trouble"."


Haha... so now the talking points appear to be that Republicans are to blame for Obama's stimulus waste, a large chunk of which migrated to the pockets of Democrat cronies.

Next he will say Republicans are also responsible for the rest of Obama's $8-9 trillion addition to the national debt.


^^^ Next he will say Republicans are also responsible for the rest of Obama's $8-9 trillion addition to the national debt. ^^^

Current Republican leadership is partly to blame for our current $18.5 trillion dollar debt and our ~$200 trillion dollars in unfunded liabilities.

They are losing their base because they promised to do something about it, but instead "surrender, then play fight" while demonizing the conservatives in their ranks and stripping them of leadership positions.

They can't even bring themselves to defund the Democrat's Population Control Program for Black Americans, otherwise known as Planned Parenthood.


Morte on the 'hearing': "Fact-Checking Planned Parenthood Chief’s Heated House Hearing", Web Link

"Planned Parenthood president Cecile Richards testified in front of Congress for the first time since the organization was targeted in secretly recorded videos by the antiabortion activist group the Center for Medical Progress (CMP)."

"But those watching Tuesday’s heated hearing — which was led by the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform (OGR) and overseen by committee Chairman Jason Chaffetz (R-Utah) — saw plenty of drama (there was lots of shouting) plus some surprising moments that showed a basic misunderstanding of how the U.S. health care system works."

"1. The federal funds that aid Planned Parenthood do not come in a bag of money."

"Chaffetz kicked off the hearing with a tearful opening statement, explaining that the loss of both his parents to cancer was caused, indirectly, by the fact that Planned Parenthood received federal funding. Chaffetz suggested that if the government were not to provide funding for Planned Parenthood, it could spend more on cancer research — and thus his parents’ lives could have been saved."

Now there's some (acting and) logic for you.

"But the vast majority of funding that Planned Parenthood receives yearly — approximately $400 million — comes from reimbursements for individual health services under Medicaid and Title X services. As Rep. Bonnie Watson Coleman (D-N.J.) attempted to explain to her colleagues at one point, there would be no federal funding received if these services weren’t utilized."

"Planned Parenthood affiliate clinics serve 2.7 million patients a year, 78 percent of whom live at 150 percent level of poverty or below. These patients are often in medically underserved areas where a Planned Parenthood affiliate is often the only Medicaid provider for well-woman care, contraception, and cancer screening within a reasonable distance of the patients in need of these services."

There's more, but it appears that in some ways Capitol Hill works much like this board; some folks don't need or want any stinking facts because they've already formed their twisted conclusions and those pesky facts just tend to get in the way.

And these morons are responsible for federal legislation?


Funny how George just glosses over the need to provide half-billion dollars to the Democrat's Population Control Program for Black Americans and the atrocities that result so he can concentrate on his deranged bashing of House conservatives.

Then again, he's a man who believes we should negotiate with Iran's terror supporting regime, but refuses to hear out his own mayor.

It's as though he's some kind of misogynist, or hates the future generations that we're straddling with insurmountable debt.


I believe it much more appropriate if you, francis, were to attack the facts of the issue here as opposed to your constant personal affronts.

You do know at least some of the facts in this matter, don't you?

All you need do is scroll up and click the links provided. There are plenty. Pick one, actually read it, comprehend it, then get back to us with issue related comments instead of the personal attacks that simply demonstrate your complete arrogance and ignorance.

In the meantime, have a great day.


^^^ I believe it much more appropriate if you, francis, were to attack the facts of the issue here as opposed to your constant personal affronts. ^^^

I know the issue and I know the facts, and I don't need to be lectured by vapid men like George Muteff that have a tendency to wallow in the insignificant.


In the event that it is perhaps difficult for some to scroll up and actually read the facts provided, Here's another story about the empty suit GOP: "Has the GOP Been Right About Anything this Century?", Web Link

For those that need a lead-in; "Here's what Peter Wehner, who headed the White House Office of Strategic Initiatives under President George W. Bush, had to say about the Republican presidential contest as it currently stands:"

"This year is different, and what is happening now is leaving a searing impression," he said. "This is toxic for the Republican Party -- potentially lethal for it."

"-- potentially lethal for it." Those are pretty serious words, particularly coming from an X-Busher. He is not alone. Most see it. I don't know that anyone really understands it; but we are witnessing the total implosion of the GOP, from top to bottom, and it is a very ugly scene.

"Decades before Donald Trump began blathering his mean spirited utterings about immigration or Dr. Ben Carson, with total disregard for the Constitution, telling every Muslim American child that the day you were born, if he had his way, their religion would disqualify them from becoming President of the United States, Richard Nixon was crafting his "Southern Strategy."

"The Southern strategy was a campaign tactic adopted by Republican Party for gaining political support, in particular white Southern voters, by appealing to racism against African Americans."

"Beyond being on the wrong side of practically every significant public policy issue foreign and domestic, what does the Republican Party have to show for itself this century?" Oh, I know the answer to that one....

"Its current brand has been shaped by championing an ill-advise war in Iraq, opposing gay rights, conflating illegal immigration with terrorism, against equal pay for equal work, blaming low-income people for the economic mess that was created by irresponsibly supporting tax cuts ad nauseam, exploding the deficit, and shutting down the government."

So it appears that what we have in the current GOP, across the board, is a party that disparages women and ethnic and sexual diversity, while at the same time looks for ways to extort, lie and self-promote at all costs. The obvious question is; who benefits, how and why? The next question would have to be; what about the ret of us ... the majority?

And there are some that actually can get behind that?


^^^ So it appears that what we have in the current GOP, across the board, is a party that disparages women and ethnic and sexual diversit ^^^

One look at the Republican candidates for Preesident exposes that lie from the ever vapid George Muteff.


Imagine a party that calls collaborating and cooperating with the opposing party on legislation "treason". What a bunch of clowns.


"One look at the Republican candidates for Preesident exposes" ... complete ignorance and blatant pandering, with absolutely no regard for the truth or facts. They make it up as they go, and that is not only evident from the facts, it is frightening.

The good news, however, is in today's world information travels a lightning speed and just about all Americans are connected in one way or another.

What that means, as if I need to explain, is that Americans know when they are being lied to, generally as it happens.

Damn that Google and social media, huh?


^^^ complete ignorance and blatant pandering, with absolutely no regard for the truth or facts. ^^^

To quote a mayor, you are a weak man, George.

It is quite obvious that the GOP field is quite diverse by any measure. You're just too biased to acknowledge it.

That, and you're absolutely unhinged about anything Republican.

But carry on. In a sick way, it's kind of fun watching you make a blathering fool of yourself.


To quote a mayor, you are a weak man, George.

Francis, you are a petulant gay man trapped in the body of a petulant straight man trapped in the body of a shrill, spinster prude who desperately needs a stick removed from their colon.

You can quote me on that. Isn't this name-calling a blast??


^^^ Isn't this name-calling a blast?? ^^^

Knock yourself out.


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