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The Iran Deal Moves Forward

Amidst crocodile tears, ridiculous claims of anti-semitism and paranoid fantasies of nuclear holocaust, once again, Obama leads us and the world forward.

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"Obama leads us and the world forward" like Custer's men to slaughter.


I wish you guys would have been this skeptical about the Iraq War as you are about the Iran Peace. We'd have a lot more money and fewer wounded or dead soldiers.


I was skeptical.


BTW... "Peace?" More like the calm before the hellstorm.

If this were peace why is Iran calling for our demise?


"If this were peace why is Iran calling for our demise?"

Iran is not saying or doing anything. Just as in the United States there are idiots and extremists who make outlandish statements and have a group of idiotic supporters who agree with them. Something like Donald Trump.

There are some in Iran who are uncomfortable dealing with the U S just as many in the U S are uncomfortable dealing with Iran.

"Samantha Power, the U.S. ambassador to the United Nations, appeared to try to address some of the concerns shared by congressional conservatives and some in the Middle East. The deal "doesn't change our profound concern about human rights violations committed by the Iranian government or about instability Iran fuels ... from its support for terrorist proxies to its repeated threats against Israel, its other destabilizing activities in the region", she said."

"Iran's U.N. Ambassador, Gholamali Khoshroo, rejected the U.S. accusations as baseless. "The country that invaded two countries in our region and created favorable grounds for the growth of terrorism and extremism is not well placed to raise such accusations against my country," he told the Council."

"At the same news conference, Iranian Foreign Minister Mohammad Javad Zarif did not touch on the issue of Israel directly, but said: "Of course we have differing political views. But we can talk about these differences of opinion.""

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I'm sure that the Iranians really appreciate pushovers like "Boney Bills" that overlook the Iranian leaders promising death to America and its key ally in the middle east. It makes their job so much easier.

Iran will get the bomb. And for that, you can thank Obama, Kerry and all of the goose-stepping Democrats and their naive sycophants. The only question that remains is how they'll manage to blame Bush(!!) when Iran begins using those billions to continue terrorizing the world.

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Oh, and Americans do oppose the Iran deal: Web Link

The poll also shows that 56 percent of Americans think that the deal would make the world less safe, compared to 28 percent who think that the deal would make the world safer.

On the plus side, it's good to know that a majority of Americans can still tell that Obama and Kerry are deceiving them about what their silly little deal will actually accomplish.


I guess we have a battle of the polls.

"A new survey shows a majority of Americans wants Congress to uphold the Obama administration’s nuclear deal with Iran.

According to the survey from the University of Maryland, 55 percent of respondents said Congress should get behind the agreement, despite some concerns.

Twenty-three percent, meanwhile, said lawmakers should instead ratchet up sanctions, and 14 percent wanted U.S. officials to go back to the negotiating table."

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I'm sure that the Iranians really appreciate pushovers like "Boney Bills" that overlook the Iranian leaders promising death to America and its key ally in the middle east. It makes their job so much easier.

Brighter individuals know the difference between reality and political rhetoric. When The Donald calls Mexicans rapists and murderers, should Mexico think ALL Americans are as obnoxious and tone-deaf as Trump? No. We should not take "Death to America" chants literally, but as part of our love-hate relationship with a country we've screwed with since at least the 1950's.


>>"...goose-stepping Democrats and their naive sycophants."<<

Sorry, Franny, but it turns out that all the mindless, chanting devotion to partisan politics came from the conservatives. While their brainless, reflexive opposition began before the deal was even finalized -- and remember, most Repubs came out against it BEFORE THEY EVEN READ IT -- turns out the Democrats read it in great detail, agonized over it and explored it deeply. Some of them took multiple additional intelligence briefings and sharply criticized the Obama administration before giving their support -- based on the irrefutable conclusion that an imperfect deal was, after all, better than nothing.

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A few samples from the article:

"The Iran deal stands out for the thoroughness and deliberation that Democrats such as Coons have brought to this difficult vote. Many of them consider it among the most important and agonizing votes of their careers.... Coons even told The Washington Post that a longtime friend said the senator should never speak to him again if he voted for the deal."

Unlike the knee-jerk Republicans, the Democrats actually studied the deal exhaustively:

"Sen. Angus King (I) of Maine, who caucuses with the Democrats, marked up his text with 39 questions in the margins... Sen. Bob Casey (D) of Pennsylvania announced his approval Tuesday in a 17-page memo, complete with footnotes.... Like other senators, [Coons] attended more than a dozen Foreign Relations Committee hearings and classified briefings. He met with specialists and administration officials and with opponents and supporters up and down his state... he went into the technical weeds of nuclear capability with Energy Secretary Ernest Moniz – a nuclear physicist... [Coons] and his staff developed a set of criteria to measure a final version."

How many GOPers devoted that kind of attention to it? ZERO. They were all on record against the deal months ago.

As to the Republican bullpucky about a "better deal"... here's the truth:

"An “ah ha” moment arrived when [Coons] and other senators attended a classified briefing with ambassadors from the five world powers that, along with the United States, negotiated the agreement. There, in the basement of the Capitol, the diplomats said that, essentially, there was no “better deal” to hold out for. They would not return to the negotiating table or revisit sanctions; they were committed to enforcing the deal before them. If the United States wanted to try to wring more concessions from Iran, it would be on its own."

Wanna guess how many Republicans even acknowledge that meeting?

So, contrary to the despicably Nazi-themed whimpering from our pathetic Gualalan troll (goose-stepping being one of his favorite adjectives), what we have is overwhelming confirmation of Democratic thoughtfulness, thoroughness, statesmanship and a determination to do what is best for America and the world.

And another reason to celebrate another humiliating defeat for the conservatives who hold none of those principles sacred.


This not a good deal for the US. The only ones that don't realize it are the Obama sycophants like the washed up sportscaster that thinks he's so clever calling me "Franny."

Iran will get the bomb, thanks to Democrats and their goons like Mike Gaynes. A better leader would have lead the world to a better deal. But Obama's not a leader, at least not as far as American interests go.

^^^And another reason to celebrate another humiliating defeat for the conservatives who hold none of those principles sacred. ^^^

Another indicator of what's important to left-wingers. Who needs to do the right thing for America and its allies when you can gloat about such a shallow victory?


Let's see: The Obama administration knowingly leaves our highest security intel wide open for Iran to read while also preventing us from inspecting them on nuclear compliance; they inspect themselves.

Whose side is Obama on?


>>"Who needs to do the right thing for America and its allies when you can gloat..."<<

Why choose when you get to do both?

The touchdown feels even better when you can spike the football in the face of somebody who likes to describe you in Third Reich terms.

Yep, that feels pretty good.


"Iran will get the bomb, thanks to Democrats and their goons like Mike Gaynes."

A very good argument can be made that Iran would feel no need for a "bomb", but for us' dominance of them and in the region. There is significant history here that is not being discussed.

This agreement, as it stands, will prevent Iran from nuclear weapon pursuit, pushing possibilities out at least a decade, and more for some facets. Based on what I've seen, it is probably as good as can be had at this time and accomplishes the stated goals.

There will always be deniers; that's just life - but I think it's a very good first step.

After all, none of us know what the world will be like in 20 years - nobody, not even the gentleman from Gualala that apparently sits on the right hand of God.

But we've been through all this a hundred times. No need to make it 101. The agreement is out there for all to see. The Senate will pass it. Any attempt to thwart that is, at this point, a waste of time.

If anyone is just so upset about it that they are consumed by it, may I suggest you contact your federal elected official and bitch away. Won't do a bit of good, but at least you'll feel better.


Btw, from the 2nd line above; it could also be very reasonably argued that it was the republicans that have consistently messed with the governments of Iran, Iraq and just about every other mideast nation - from overthrows to manipulations. The republicans have never given a damn about the people of those nations - ever. All they have ever cared about is the resource we call oil, at whatever expense it may come by.

When was the last time a democrat invaded Iran or Iraq or any other mideast nation?

And the republican administrations? When toppling governments and manipulating mideast nations and starting wars, one thing that they have done and done well; count their returns on their oil investments 9Daily). Bush Jr managed 795% on his investments (oil) while invading the sovereign nation of Iraq.

How many of us made that return? And we still pay for it today.


The deciding vote on the Iran deal? Not Babs Mikulski. Bob Corker:

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Only one senator saw what was coming and voted against it -- Tom Cotton.


Only one senator saw what was coming and voted against it -- Tom Cotton.

Sniffles!


Whose side is Obama on?

Well, as a birther, I thought you knew that Obama was a Manchurian candidate bent on spreading Islam and socialism in Amerika.

Do I have that right?


Nope, you don't have it right.

I never said Barry O wasn't eligible to be Prez. I said his birth certificate is an amateurish and phony creation.


I said his birth certificate is an amateurish and phony creation.

That word "amateur has come up a lot in the past with respect to Obama.

Lot's of smack talk about The Amateur.

Notice that's not happening now that amateurs Trump and Carson are on the scene? Suddenly, The Teabaggers aren't so fixated on the level of professional political experience THEIR candidates have or don't have.

What a coincidence!


I did say that the computer mockup was amateurish but didn't suggest Obama was the one creating it himself. But anyway, a good manager also knows how to find good people. Trump could. Fiorina could, and so could Carson. Obama hasn't, doesn't, can't.


^^^ Sniffles! ^^^

Imitation is the highest form of flattery.


Sincerest. The proverb is that imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Rather than the more quantitative "highest", it's a qualitative personal value of being authentic, sincere.


While the rest of the world is creating financial arrangements with Iran, the Republicans continue to use the agreement for political purposes. Japan is currently securing Iranian oil contracts and Iran has so far concluded bilateral investment pacts with China, France, Italy, and Germany, the ministry said, citing U.N. data as of August.

By reopening its embassy in Tehran on Sunday, the British government sent a strong signal that diplomatic ties with Iran were improving regardless of what moves the US Congress makes.

"If the US Congress spoils the Iran deal, a difficult debate will take place among Europeans as to their options. Europe could succumb to economic pressure, align itself with Congress and renege on the deal. But at a time when European relations with Tehran have warmed, and in a situation where Congress has obstructed the deal without giving it a chance to succeed, Europeans are likely to sympathize with Iran and forcefully stand against the US legislature.

If the US Congress wrecks the deal, Europeans will need to provide Iran with a package that offers economic easing from EU sanctions on the condition that Iran curtails its nuclear program. They will also need to protect their companies from US secondary sanctions by exerting the type of political pressure used to resist the Clinton administration’s extra-territorial sanctions on Libya and Iran in the 1990s. And whether Europe aligns itself with an anti-deal US Congress or not, it will incur costs and have to prepare to deal with the consequences of another military confrontation in the Middle East.

As Obama correctly noted, if Congress rejects the Iran deal it is inconceivable that America’s partners in Europe would then say “we’ll just do what [Arkansas Republican Sen.] Tom Cotton has to say with respect to our geopolitical interests.” US members of Congress opposed to the deal must be alert that their threats against Europe, and insistence on reaching a fantasy deal, are troubling many of their allies. This risks undermining trans-Atlantic unity and ultimately Western leverage, while inadvertently strengthening China and Russia. It’s understandable that Congress may see itself as omnipotent on domestic issues, but it would be dangerous for it to take a similar stance with world powers regarding matters of global security."

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Obama and Kerry painted us into a corner, bought the votes to pass the Iran deal, and now tell us with a straight face that yes, terrorism will in fact be funded with the $100B. Does it get much sleazier:

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"Just moments after the White House secured enough votes to override a congressional veto of the Iran deal, a letter from Kerry appeared in the inboxes of congressional offices across Capitol Hill.

"Kerry admits that, despite the deal, Iran will continue to back terrorist groups across the globe and promises to boost military support and funding to Israel and Gulf states such as Saudi Arabia, according to a copy of the letter obtained by the Washington Free Beacon."


This is just too good t let go: "Dick Cheney faces surprise accusation on his own foreign policy", Web Link

From this piece; “You and President Bush, the Bush-Cheney administration, dealt with Iran for eight years,” Chris Wallace, the host of “Fox News Sunday,” pointed out in an interview Sunday. And during that time, the host continued, “Iran went from zero known [nuclear] centrifuges in operation to more than 5,000.”

"The Fox News host flashed that data on screen so no one could miss it, and added: “So in fairness, didn’t you leave — the Bush-Cheney administration — leave President Obama with a mess?”

“Well, I don’t think of it that way,” Cheney countered. Well now, there's a big surprise!

The piece continues with; “In fact, there was military action that had an impact on the Iranians. It was when we took down Saddam Hussein. There was a period of time when they stopped their program because they were scared that what we did to Saddam, we were going to do to them next.”

“But the centrifuges went from zero to 5,000,” Wallace pressed.

“Well, they may well have gone but that happened on Obama’s watch, not on our watch,” Cheney replied.

“No, no, no,” Wallace said. “By 2009, they were at 5,000.”

“Right,” said Cheney, who seemed to be losing air from somewhere in his lower back. “But I think we did a lot to deal with the arms control problem in the Middle East.”

Busted, on national TV, by a well known moderator/reporter/interviewer.

Don't you just love it when it all is on the table? One can only wonder if being busted today will have any impact on the load of crap Cheney offers up in 2 days. Doubtful. One has to have a conscience for that to happen.

Did I mention that Cheney shoots his friends?


"Debbie Wasserman Schultz, Head of D.N.C., Backs Iran Nuclear Deal", Web Link

“I’ll be casting my vote to support the deal and if necessary sustain the president’s veto,” she told Jake Tapper on “State of the Union” on CNN. While she called it a “gut-wrenching” decision-making process that caused her “angst and pause,” she concluded that the agreement would “put Iran years away from being a threshold nuclear state.”

The congresswoman choked up emotionally as she talked about the difficulty of the decision as a “Jewish mother” and the first Jewish woman elected to the House from Florida.

“There’s nothing more important to me as a Jew than to ensure that Israel’s existence is there throughout our generations,” she said.

She added, “There is no way that we would be able to ensure that better than approving this deal.”

Well said.


Obama/Kerry welching on the Iran deal. Seems that pesky side deal they tried to hide from Congress and the American people could hold things up:

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And it's refreshing to see, even belatedly, that Republicans are starting to see their error in crafting the Corker bill that upended the constitutional regarding treaties.

The Iran Nuclear Agreement Review Act of 2015, which requires the president to submit to Congress the nuclear agreement reached with Iran, represents an exceptional bipartisan congressional accommodation. Instead of submitting an agreement through the constitutionally proper mechanism — as a treaty requiring approval by a two-thirds majority in the Senate — the act enables President Obama to go forward with the deal unless Congress disapproves it by a veto-proof margin. Unfortunately, the president has not complied with the act, jeopardizing his ability to implement the agreement.

And to think we'd have never known about that side deal were it not for one young senator for Arkansas, the same one despised by the fool lavishing praise on Debbie Blabbermouth Schultz. Now there's two peas from the same pod!


"Scott Walker, meet Noam Chomsky: Here’s the real Iran history Republicans need to learn" / "What will it take for conservatives to understand that we're the ones who have been meddling in Iran for decades?", Web Link

"As a historic deal with Iran that would temporarily block it from pursuing certain nuclear ambitions in exchange for relaxation of sanctions moves ever closer to passage, Republicans are vowing to do all they can to scuttle the deal. It’s remarkable that, at a time when the first modern meaningful international agreement between the U.S. and Iran is about to go through, Republicans are rattling sabers as aggressively as ever."

"A brief history of U.S.-Iranian relations reveals everything about who should be distrustful of whom."

"In 1953, the CIA overthrew Iran’s democratically elected government and installed the Shah, a brutal dictator who proceeded to establish one of the worst human rights records of the era. Following the Iranian Revolution in 1979, which deposed the Shah, Washington turned its favor to another brutal dictator in the region: Saddam Hussein, who received U.S. aid throughout the Iran-Iraq War. Ever since the revolution, the U.S. has imposed various sanctions on Iran. And most recently, we launched major military operations in two of Iran’s neighboring states, further destabilizing the region and threatening Iran’s own safety."

"But in the eyes of U.S. commentary, Iran remains the supreme evil. It’s instructive, for instance, that without any irony or self-awareness we charge Iran with interfering in the Iraq War – a war we instigated from the other side of the world, against massive international protest, on Iran’s doorstep. Actually, Iran’s involvement in the Iraq conflict has necessarily increased with the growing threat of ISIS, a group that only exists because of the immense power vacuum and destabilization caused by the U.S. invasion."

There's plenty more for anyone interested.


When you support the Iran deal, but can't make a strong case for supporting it are are presented with the fact that Obama has yet to meet his obligations under the Corker bill, what can you do?

Try to change the subject, of course!


The "deal" is done, francis. Don't you read the news?

Step away from the keyboard. Show us your hands. Back up. Now turn around and walk to and out the front door. Take a deep breath - I said a deep breath. Take another deep breath. Repeat at least a dozen times.

Feels good to pull your head out, doesn't it?

Now go take a walk, smell the flowers, the clean air. Go enjoy the day, unless of course, calling others names and chasing your tail have become such a habit that you can't stop without help, as that IS your form of enjoyment.

In that case, seek the help you obviously need. There are plenty of mental health lines you can call; start with the phone book; maybe you'll find some of them there.

I'll repeat; there "deal" is done. Nag, piss, moan, cry and stomp your little feet all you want - but it is a "done deal". Funny, seems most others around the world get it and are thankful in their approval.

But there's always one, ...


The deal comes with conditions. Break the conditions and the done deal is done for.


^^^ The deal comes with conditions. Break the conditions and the done deal is done for. ^^^

Look for 'bamby-bumpkins and his army of mindless bots to argue that they've already met the terms under the Corker-Cardin bill despite clear evidence that they haven't.


"Former Israeli spy chief says problem is Iran, not Obama, in call to end criticism of US", Web Link

"HERZLIYA, Israel – Former Israeli Mossad spy chief Meir Dagan says it is time for Israel to stop criticizing the United States over the nuclear deal it and world powers struck with Iran."

"Speaking Monday at the International Institute for Counterterrorism's annual conference in the coastal city of Herzliya, Dagan said: "The problem is Iran, not President Obama."

"Dagan has been a fierce critic of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's hard-line policies regarding Iran. He vocally opposed the prospect of an Israeli military strike against Iran's nuclear facilities that Netanyahu is said to have supported."

"Dagan said Israel made a "strategic decision" to adopt a policy against the United States and "it is time to end it."

And the best part? - "Dagan is a retired military general who headed Israel's secretive Mossad agency from 2002-2011."

But we're sure that holds no water, that Dagan's comments are borne of ignorance and that he's just another "clapping seal" in the Obama jihad quiver.

Little doubt that someone will be along shortly to help us understand why Dagan is full of it, knows nothing and is one step short of the looney-tune hospital that may be able to provide him help. Heck, he may even be a pedophile.

Stay tuned, ...


"Obama's Turn to Pay Back the Gulf States", Web Link

"No matter how the White House describes it, President Barack Obama's meeting with King Salman of Saudi Arabia last week was about payback. The Saudis gave Obama what he wanted: a (tepid) endorsement of his nuclear pact with Iran. Now they and their Persian Gulf neighbors are looking for some concrete assurances that the deal won't imperil their safety."

"Salman was a notable no-show when Obama had Gulf-state leaders to Camp David in May to sell them on the Iran deal. Those who did come pressed the president for a formal security treaty committing the U.S. to come to their defense if they were attacked. Obama demurred, as he had to: The U.S. is rightly wary of such binding deals, which would have to be approved by Congress. Instead, Obama gave vague reassurances of support and promised increased arms sales."

"Now that the Iran deal looks certain to make it past a congressional vote of disapproval, Obama can afford to be more forthcoming. There are several ways for him to assuage the leaders' fears that the U.S. is abandoning them."

The author then presents four (4) ways of reassurance, before concluding with this: "The U.S. is taking a giant leap of faith with its nuclear pact with Iran. It owes the Gulf states some measure of reassurance for taking that leap along with it."

Seems fair enough to me. Let's see how this plays out.


Getting this agreement to go through is Obama's most valuable accomplishment to our global society--bar none.

Anything else he has done while in office means very little compared to this. Frankly I am surprised that Obama had the kohones to push this agreement through. Doing this in the face of the powerful mainstream media controlled by you-know-what-country makes the victory ever so sweet.


Getting this agreement to go through is Obama's most valuable accomplishment to our global society--bar none.

Anything else he has done while in office means very little compared to this. Frankly I am surprised that Obama had the kohones to push this agreement through. Doing this in the face of the powerful mainstream media controlled by you-know-what-country makes the victory ever so sweet.


George... Meir Dagan is FAR more than just the former head of the Mossad... he is one of this world's greatest warriors against terrorism in general and Iran's nuclear weapons ambitions in particular.

As Mossad chief, he ordered the assassinations of some of Iran's top nuclear scientists and executed the brilliant Stuxnet computer attack that destroyed a third of Iran's nuclear centrifuges and set their program back a couple of years. He is as right-wing as it gets. As you can probably tell, Dagan is one of my heroes.

And he has been a very public and strident voice of truth against the sleazeball, untrustworthy, anti-American Bibi Netanyahu for years.

It was Dagan who broke his cover to sit in front of a camera on 60 Minutes and totally destroy the contention of Netanyahu and the blathering US Republicans that bombing Iranian reactors was a viable alternative -- he exposed the truth that Iran's capabilities are largely underground beyond bombing level and would be mostly unharmed, and that the resulting counterstrike from Iran would likely kill thousands of Jews in Israel.

He also called Netanyahu the single greatest threat to Israel's security... more so than Iran.

And even while battling deadly cancer, he continues to speak out... and speak the truth... while being appropriately contemptuous of the US Republican politicians who kowtow to Bibi and reflexively call for a "better deal" (paging Tommy Boy Cotton and the other signatories of the Iran letter!!!).

Meir Dagan should be a hero to us all.

Except, of course, to those who think Traitor Tommy Boy is some kind of hero.


^^^ He also called Netanyahu the single greatest threat to Israel's security... more so than Iran. ^^^

Sounds like he hates Netanyahu more than he loves Israel.

And it looks like Mike Gaynes is trying to conflate Dagan's hatred of Netanyahu with ardent support for ObamaDeal.

Dagan did make clear that he believes Iran is more of a problem than Obama. Hardly an earth-shattering revelation, as anyone with their eyes open can see that Iran can't be trusted to meet their obligations under the deal and that there is no realistic way to force them to comply.

Honestly, if the clown in the Whitehouse can't stop Assad from using chemical weapons, why should we believe that same clown can stop the Iranian mullahs from developing and using nukes?


>>"Sounds like he hates Netanyahu more than he loves Israel."<<

Only someone who cannot conceive of an entire life spent serving one's country could make such a contemptible statement.

Dagan has proved his love for Israel a thousand times over, in combat as well as the front lines of international intelligence.

And if Israel's greatest warrior against Iran views the Iranians as a "very rational regime"... his opinion deserves the highest respect. Certainly more then the American conservative political hacks you admire.

BTW he doesn't hate Netanyahu. They're friends, longtime partners and close political allies... or rather they were until Dagan saw Bibi spreading deliberate misinformation to his own political advantage. But no matter how harsh the language between them, they retain the strong connection of fellow warriors for their country. Something you couldn't possibly understand.

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"Democrats clinch critical 41 votes for Iran nuclear deal", Web Link

"WASHINGTON (AP) — Democrats clinched the crucial Senate votes Tuesday to block passage of a disapproval resolution against the Iran nuclear accord, an outcome that would be a major victory for President Barack Obama against united Republican opposition."

"Still, the complicated machinery of Congress was turning in favor of the president on his top foreign policy priority, despite GOP control of both the House and the Senate. Already supporters of the deal have the votes in hand to uphold Obama's veto of a disapproval resolution, should that become necessary. Blocking the disapproval resolution with a filibuster, while ideal from the White House view because it would spare Obama from having to use a veto, would not change the ultimate outcome."

"This agreement will stand," Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said in a speech Tuesday morning at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. "America will uphold its commitment and we will seize this opportunity to stop Iran from getting a nuclear weapon."

First, how painful this must be - death by a thousand cuts - for those opposed to the deal and doing their level best to thwart it... 'drip, drip, drip' I believe the opposing poster mentioned? Ouch!

Secondly, and probably more significant; the republicans control Congress and still can't get something done ... but what's new?

And there are actually those that think the GOP walks on water, that they have anything resembling leadership skills to offer and that they are doers and accomplishers.

The reality of it all is that they are too busy chasing their tails to lead, even if they were capable, which they aren't.

And all the while, this deal continues to move forward - and will be the tool that the world needs to contain nuclear weapons proliferation in a very volatile hotbed.

The deal may or may not be perfect (likely not), but it is the best alternative the world has at this point, which is why reasonable people from all over the world are supporting it ... except for those few politically motivated self-important republicans that have consistently opposed anything with Obama's fingerprints on it. That's all they've done for the last seven years and all they talk about going forward (except for Trump, which also occupies simple minds).

Pretty sad commentary on today's GOP, isn't it. They have the majority and still can't get anything done.

And yet they want our vote! Sorry lot.


^^^ Only someone who cannot conceive of an entire life spent serving one's country could make such a contemptible statement. ^^^

More over-the-top hyperbole, and presented while showing contempt for another man that served his country admirably, all to shore up some punk's deal that won't serve America's interests in the least.

Just more of the twisted thinking emanating from the far left and its acolytes.


ObamaDeal opposed by nearly 2.5 times as many as support it: Web Link

According to Obama's lap dogs, they too must be "traitors."

Me? I think they have more sense than all of the governing elites and their clapping seals.


"Cheney’s Iran lie exposed in dramatic fashion", Web Link

"The underlying challenge for the failed former V.P. is the degree to which his own Iran policy failed spectacularly. Iran didn’t have a meaningful nuclear weapons program until Tehran developed one – during the Bush/Cheney administration. At the time, in response to Iran’s nuclear program, the Bush/Cheney administration did nothing – except, of course, strengthen Iran’s regional power by invading Iraq."

"With this in mind, Fox News’ Chris Wallace reminded Cheney over the weekend that Iran “went from zero known [nuclear] centrifuges in operation to more than 5,000.” The Republican’s response was extraordinary.

The Fox News host flashed that data on screen so no one could miss it, and added: “So in fairness, didn’t you leave – the Bush-Cheney administration – leave President Obama with a mess?”

“Well, I don’t think of it that way,” Cheney countered. […] “But the centrifuges went from zero to 5,000,” Wallace pressed.

“Well, they may well have gone but that happened on Obama’s watch, not on our watch,” Cheney replied.

"That’s the exact opposite of the truth, as Wallace, to his credit, quickly reminded the former V.P. Iran’s nuclear program blossomed, not under President Obama, but during the Bush/Cheney era."

"Cheney wants Americans to blame Obama for a mess Cheney created. Indeed, either Cheney doesn’t know what happened in Iran on his watch, in which case his ignorance effectively disqualifies him from the debate, or Cheney simply doesn’t care about the facts, which renders his misguided opinions meaningless."

"I’m afraid there is no third option."

"New York’s Jon Chait recently explained:

"Bush and Cheney may have rhetorically opposed the Iranian nuclear program. In reality, they allowed it to blossom. As Marc Champion explained several months ago, “at the start of Bush’s presidency, Iran had no operational centrifuge cascades and no stocks of enriched fuel, so it had no means of making a nuclear weapon.” Then things got bad: “By the time Bush left office in January 2009, Iran had just under 4,000 working centrifuges and an additional 1,600 installed. These had, to that point, produced 171 kilos of low-enriched uranium. Oh, and Iran had covertly built a new enrichment facility under a mountain at Qom.”

"Measured by results, rather than sound bites, Cheney was the greatest thing that happened to the radical regime in Iran since it took power."

"Given all of these inconvenient facts, perhaps it’s not too surprising that Cheney would repeat demonstrably ridiculous talking points on national television. If I were Cheney, I’d feel humiliated by the truth, too."

"But if the former vice president wants to play a role in the drama surrounding Iran, he’s too late – we already have enough jesters, and Cheney isn’t qualified for any other role."

Wouldn't it be about this time that Trump would say: You're Fired!!

What a lying sack. Cheney and Netanyahu would make a very cute couple. Just imagine all the lies they could share at dinnertime, all the history they could re-write.


George's best friend discusses the limits of ObamaDeal and the limited amount of time he'll have to endure the existence of Israel:

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Left-wing ideologues will climb into bed with anyone.


The pain and suffering of those opposed to peace appears overbearing.

It must be difficult for them as this deal continues to march through to done and all the naysayers can do is watch, complain and attack others.

Flailing personal attacks are nothing more than than - meanwhile the best option for containment of nuclear arms in Iran and the middle east, which began and flourished under the Bush/Cheney administration, is being confined by Obama and most other world leaders.

Maybe the slogan of those irrationally opposed to peace should be "Peace is Painful". Maybe they should all stand shoulder to shoulder with Netanyahu and Cheney and chant what they really feel; "War is Good!" (so long as I don't have to 'serve')


"Cheney vs. Obama: This Time It’s Personal", Web Link

"Empire Strikes Back: Former Vice President Dick Cheney, one of the principal architects of the 2003 Iraq invasion, and President Barack Obama, who surged into office on opposition to it and other “dumb wars,” squared off – sort of – for Round Three in their foreign-policy showdown, and this time it got personal. No competing addresses, but Cheney lived up to his name as the Darth Vader of politics, whipping out a verbal lightsaber to shred Obama’s Iran deal as “catastrophic” and an act of “madness.” No surprise there: Cheney’s been harshing on Obama since year one of Obama’s term, when he challenged the new commander-in-chief with a competing speech on national security."

"Book Report: Unlike last time, however, Cheney was selling something other than a dark worldview with terror around every corner and a feckless president getting swindled at every turn. Cheney’s hawking, so to speak, a new book, “Exceptional: Why the World Needs a Powerful America,” co-authored with his daughter, Liz Cheney. Only according to the Washington Post, the book should stay on the shelf and Cheney might want to think of staying in the Death Star for another two years. Far from bringing fresh arguments, contrition or even perspective to the debate with Obama, reviewer Carlos Lozada writes, Cheney doubles down on his smackdown of the president’s diplomacy-first protocol, and his own might-makes-right strategy. But Lozada also finds Cheney’s book rings hollow, and he wonders why anyone pays attention to him anymore. ”Rather than a slugfest, this feels like a swan song,” Lozada writes. “It is far from clear that Cheney’s arguments, calcified in the intervening years, wield much influence anymore, even within his own party, or that they should.” Ouch."

Poor little Dick. Well we can only hope that his book sales meet his expectations. We wouldn't want to see the former VP dumpster diving, now would we?

Nice suit, little Dick. Love the look.


^^^ The pain and suffering of those opposed to peace appears overbearing. ^^^

More brainless pablum from an Obama fanboy.

Go back to bragging about your tremendous "win" in the US Senate. You know, the one in which your goose-stepping Democrats will vote to prevent the people from having their say about the deal.


Somebody appears to need a time-out.

Seems the overbearing stress of peace over war is just too much for some.

That's a shame. Lives and breathes a political party that is all but extinct because of their complete lack of leadership and he's more than willing to take out his frustrations on others - complete with cutie name calling (very third grade) and more of the same misdirection.

Poor misguided souls. They deserve our pity and understanding. It is not easy standing up and being counted in league with other losers.

Hey francis, you might want to think about this - "Give peace a chance"!

I have always appreciated the speak softly and carry a big stick approach to problems and issues; but with that comes the responsibility of using the stick and the restraint required to postpone (at least) that use until all other options have expired.

This deal is the best option on the table to contain nuclear proliferation in the most volatile region in the world and most reasonable people know that. That is why the deal is being lauded worldwide; but for those few in those damp dark recesses of the globe that still believe in the Tooth Fairy, a flat planet and that the GOP comes before all else.

Leadership ... it can be rare, but when found, should be recognized and rewarded - and That is exactly what is happening with this deal.

Isn't it odd that a republican controlled Congress can't seem to get Anything done, other than more backbiting, name calling and attempts at obstruction - all to allegedly benefit party. Hard to believe, huh? Must suck when others pee in your sandbox.


Someone is threatening war against Iran, and it isn't opponents of ObamaDeal: Web Link

What a bunch of clowns!


"House GOP to postpone vote on Iran after member revolt", Web Link

So we're crystal clear on this; Congress has just returned to (allegedly) actually do their jobs after a five (5) week hiatus (gee, I wish I could afford to take 5 weeks off for summer fun) , while commenting on the known upcoming vote and drop dead date - and they aren't ready to discuss the matter and vote?

From this piece: "House Republican leaders are delaying a vote on the Iran nuclear deal scheduled for Wednesday because of a rebellion from rank-and-file conservatives."

"The House was to hold a procedural vote to begin 11 hours of debate on a resolution disapproving the deal at 1 p.m. Instead, they will gather at 4 p.m. to discuss strategy."

What's that you say? Rebellion? Well isn't that just peachy.

"But other Republicans say it's too late to try to stall the vote when Congress's 60-day review period will close on Sept. 17."

“You know what, I think it’s pretty clear that a month and a half ago we understood that Sept. 17 would be the drop-dead date. And the week we’re doing it is a little bit late to bring up the argument,” said House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions (R-Texas).

I wonder how many of our Congressional members were Boy Scouts? The Boy Scout motto, "Be Prepared", seems to be the moral of this event. That, augmented by placing republican & leadership in the same sentence only amplifies the obvious - oxymoron... or maybe we should just drop the oxy prefix for the best possible fit.


Mitch McConnell laments that, if Dems voted the way Republicans want them to then Republicans would be happier. McConnell's calling for a second vote, but expects the exact same result as the last vote. The deal is going forward.

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Not to be outdone by Any of the GOP fools, Bibi continues his lying ways: "Netanyahu causes uproar by linking Palestinians to Holocaust", Web Link

"JERUSALEM (AP) — Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu sparked an uproar in Israel on Wednesday for suggesting that a World War II-era Palestinian leader persuaded the Nazis to adopt their Final Solution to exterminate 6 million Jews."

That is one twisted individual. Either Bibi is a lying turd or he is just totally incompetent with distorted incoherent images haunting his lack of ability to grasp any sense of reality.

Zealot anyone?


If you want to argue that the Mufti didn't want to exterminate Jews, then I can think of no fool more qualified to hold that view.

^^^ Zealot anyone? ^^^

His primary concern is the safety of Israeli citizens. Your primary concern is defending the anti-American and anti-Semite in the Whitehouse.

George reminds me of the definition of a fanatic: one that never changes his mind or the subject.


"His primary concern is the safety of Israeli citizens." Gosh, it would be swell if you were right, even if occasionally.

Bibi's primary and only goal and concern is Bibi. The evidence is overwhelming; so much so that one would have to believe that any fool could see it - even one such as yourself.


The evidence is so overwhelming that the TA babblemouth couldn't provide any examples. Never mind that he won a huge landslide victory earlier this year largely because Israelis feel safer under his rule.

Never mind that he was an Israeli commando while the punk in the WH was smoking dope in college (where he earned grades he's ashamed to share).

Web Link

Yeah, we already know who you anti-Semites prefer. But back to the issue of the grand mufti, it seems that historians agree with Bibi, and not the revisionists in the Obama Administration:

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When was the last time you were right about anything?


"...couldn't provide any examples." Following your lead - why should I do your homework for you? So demanding you are. "Never mind that he won a huge landslide victory earlier this year largely because, as we so often see, lying through his teeth pays. Wasn't there a little something about the Palestinians the night before the election? Which he recanted (somewhat & allegedly) after the election? Lying pays, doesn't it. Maybe that's why you like politics so much.

Bibi was a "Commando"? We are all very impressed. I go commando sometimes, too!

And of course, Bibi's favorite response to anyone that has the audacity to challenge him, which a few others have picked up on and also use - "anti-Semites".

Of course you're right again. Anyone that would even think to argue with Bibi must hate Jews. It couldn't possibly be that Bibi is a psychopathic liar and that the only time he speaks the truth is when his mouth is tightly sealed.

Come to think of it, ... has anyone ever told you that you and Bibi have common ground?


^^^ why should I do your homework for you? ^^^

What kind of *ssh*l* expects others to make their case for them, especially when they're so wrong about Bibi Netanyahu, Israel, the Middle East and the Iranians?

When was the last time you ever made any sense? I can't think of anything in your non-sequitur ramblings and pop-culture regurgitations that is memorable or noteworthy. It's just noise.


Iran breaks agreement and this is our response:

Web Link: ..... Speaking from the White House Tuesday, Press Secretary Josh Earnest confirmed to reporters Iran's recent ballistic missile test likely violated United Nations sanctions. 

"The missile test that we did see over the weekend, are, we've got strong indications those missile tests did violate UN Security Council rules that pertain to Iran's ballistic missile activities. Unfortunately that's not new. We have seen Iran on on, almost serially, violate the international community's concerns about their ballistic missile program..."

==> Despite the likely violation, Earnest stressed that the White House believes the Iranian regime will uphold its obligations to the recently made nuclear agreement.

(!?!)


George's unhinged positions on the Iran deal, Israel and Bibi Netanyahu can be easily attributed to hatred of Israel and a selective memory when it comes to history, as explained by David Harsanyi: Web Link

It was interesting watching some of the most stridently anti-Israel pundits—people who typically justify or ignore the stream of Holocaust-denying and Jew-hating that oozes from the Muslim world—pretending to be most insulted by this supposed cheapening of the memory of Holocaust. Others compared Netanyahu to a Holocaust denier. What really offended them, of course, was that someone had pointed out that intellectual and spiritual founder of Palestinian independence was an active Nazi. That is a fact that might be overlooked.

Then again, George is notorious for confusing his ridiculous opinions with fact.


2 says ago - "Report: Israel's atomic agency backs Iran nuclear deal", Web Link

2 days ago - "Israel's Atomic Energy Commission, which advises the Israeli government on nuclear issues, has endorsed the controversial nuclear deal with Iran and believes it will prevent Tehran from obtaining a nuclear bomb, the Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported Thursday."

2 days ago - "Israel’s Nuclear Advisory Panel Endorses Iran Deal" / "Countering Netanyahu, government and most of opposition, nation's Atomic Energy Commission maintains pact will prevent Tehran from developing nuclear bomb, source says.", Web Link

"In defense establishment discussions of the Iranian nuclear agreement, Israel’s Atomic Energy Commission, which advises the government on nuclear issues, has endorsed the pact, a source familiar with the commission’s stance told Haaretz Thursday. The panel’s position runs directly counter to that of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, cabinet ministers and most of the political opposition."

Drip, drip, drip, ...

And the best our legislators can do is make fools of themselves on national TV, day after day after day. Evan Iran's legislators can accomplish something! Ours? Well, they're just too darn busy chasing their tails, calling others names and preparing to impeach Clinton even before she is in office (not to mention if she doesn't win). What a complete waste of time and taxpayer resources.

They do love the one-liners, though ... and they really enjoy those witch hunts ... and c'mon, we can admit it - those soundbites really are something, aren't they? ...

Fact: The multi-national Iranian nuclear agreement continues to march forward. Why? Because negotiations were tried before bombing, this time, and they worked. Seems almost everyone on this planet prefers peace to war! Go figure.


>>almost everyone on this planet prefers peace to war!<<

And that's why Muslims are sawing off people's heads. For peace. Not war. Yup.


Just keep the cough syrup handy and those covers pulled up tight, so no light gets in.

Everything will be OK.


It's not OK for the people being murdered.


Well then, Do something about it uff.


I am. I'm supporting good candidates.


Well, that IS good news.

It's good to know that you have finally seen what losers the republicans have to offer and have switched to another party. Congratulations, uff!

Good thing, too, because most, if not all the republican fools would much prefer to go to war than avoid it and have stated that they will renege on the Iran Deal that so many worked so hard to achieve. Wouldn't want that, would we?

So glad to hear of your efforts.


"Iran starts taking nuclear centrifuges offline", Web Link

"DUBAI/TOKYO (Reuters) - Iran has begun shutting down uranium enrichment centrifuges under the terms of a deal struck with six world powers in July on limiting its nuclear program, Tehran's atomic energy chief said on Monday during a visit to Tokyo."

"We have already started to take our measures vis-a-vis the removal of the centrifuge machines - the extra centrifuge machines. We hope in two months time we are able to exhaust our commitment," Ali Akbar Salehi told public broadcaster NHK.

"NHK's website also quoted Salehi as saying it was important that there be "balance" in implementing the deal, signaling Tehran's stance that all sanctions against Iran should be lifted promptly in step with its dismantling of nuclear infrastructure."


Iran deal has yet to be approved by Khamenie:

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Just another worthless agreement engineered by Obama.


Denial can be so debilitating.


Another stupid and pointless platitude George.

The Iranians have not only failed to accept the idiotic gifts from Obama, they now have additional demands.

Not that such facts have any meaning to a biased hack like George.


And here we go again; I post facts and francis continues to deny them. What a world, huh?

Well, here's another for the 'cause'; "On Broadway, Obama takes a bow mocking Republicans", Web Link

"NEW YORK (AP) — Appearing on Broadway for one night only: Barack Obama, in a solo comedy act roasting the Republican Party."

"Deviating from his typical fundraiser spiel, Obama said the 2016 Republican presidential candidates seem to "occupy a different reality" in which the country has taken a perilous turn since he took office nearly seven years ago."

"According to them, everything was really good in 2008, when we were going through the worst economic crisis in our lifetimes," Obama said. "This, apparently, was the golden age that I messed up." Yeah, we all sure really miss those years.

"And they're so glum," Obama added, barely containing his feelings about the GOP cast of characters seeking his job. "They're really so frustrated."

Here's how this piece closes out: "And then it turns out they can't handle a bunch of CNBC moderators," Obama quipped, poking fun at candidates' complaints about last week's GOP presidential debate. "If you can't handle those guys, I don't think the Chinese and the Russians are going to be too worried about you."


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