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Islam is not a religion

So says Rear Admiral (Ret) James "Ace" Lyons in testimony on how we failed with Iran and Islam over the decades and unbelievably didn't take action when warranted. I.e. when even the Frech wanted to. Watch to the end (under 4 min).

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When I attempted to click on the site referred to I got this message "File not found or deleted!"

Googling, I was unable to locate it, but I found these quotes from the Admiral:

"WASHINGTON EXAMINER) A retired four-star admiral who commanded the U.S. Pacific Fleet during several Middle East flare ups is charging that President Obama’s strategy in the area is “anti-American” and instead “pro-Islamic.”"

"By embracing Iran’s path to nukes, and by promising to protect the mullahs against any Israeli effort to stop them, Obama has openly switched sides between the modern world of human rights and freedoms and the most primitive kind of fanatical Islam, straight from the 7th century desert."

"The enemy is not just the Armageddon cult of Iran. It is also their opposite numbers in Al Qaeda -- because we now know that Obama and Hillary plotted to smuggle big quantities of weapons from Benghazi to Al Qaida in Syria. And it’s also the Muslim Brotherhood, which has infiltrated our intelligence agencies, according to Admiral James Lyons."

"It would surprise most Americans to know how widespread Shariah blasphemy law is in this country today. For example, the major U.S. Muslim Jurists Association supports Islamic blasphemy law. Those Muslims who want to live under Shariah law should move to a country that supports it."

Very interesting man


Web Link

This seems to work. Regrets for the bad link.


Ridiculous post.

I also tried the link; got the same result, but to me, it just doesn't matter.

When someone initiates a thread with the title "Islam is not a religion", you just have to scratch your head in wonderment; to the point of truly wondering why anyone would do that.


Web Link .... Washington examiner article

This was the part I found most interesting-

"..the nation has to come to “grips” with Islam as something other than a religion. “Until you recognize that Islam is the political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it,” he said at the conference titled the "Defeat Jihad Summit."


Why initiate a thread?

Because the man knows his stuff and I want to know more about that statement. His words about Obama are not newsworthy at this point.


It is hard to believe that anyone takes seriously the ravings of an 87 year old man.

Uffis, I am surprised that you do.


Something to chew on--

Web Link ..... the book, "Allah is Dead" and descriptions from Amazon:

Ms. Bynum lays out her case against Islam most forcefully in the first two chapters; her belief is that it is essentially an overly formalistic creed, which reduces the good life to conformity with a series of unquestionable dictates. Obedience, and not love, is its primary value.  Man exists for the sake of Islam, and not Islam for the sake of man.  It is fixated on the material world, and leads its adherents to similarly fixate on that same realm; the consequences of this fixation are at once a spiritual stagnation and the lust for territorial expansion:

“the focus of Islam is entirely upon the material world.  Its notions of pure and impure are expressly material as is its concept of religious sovereignty.  Islamic sovereignty is territorial sovereignty, not the sovereignty of the spirit over the hearts of men.” 

In brief, Islam impinges upon the dignity of the individual, and asks its devotees to forfeit their intellectual and moral freedom, in ways that are perfectly unacceptable to western peoples, and thoroughly inconsistent with their cultures.

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Just because people profess a faith in an ideology doesn’t make it a religion. In our lifetime, people swore loyalty to Communism and Nazism with religious fervor, but those ideologies were never granted a “religious” status. Also in America, one so-called “religious” practice – polygamy – was so offensive that the Mormon church was forced to discontinue it to gain legal acceptance. There are definite limits to what can be deemed a religion, even in First Amendment America.


BB, age is no reason not to listen to someone. I'm sad you resorted to that. We have intelligent, active and highly connected elder people on the Coast and your comments have to be offensive to them.


“Until you recognize that Islam is the political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it,” he said at the conference titled the "Defeat Jihad Summit."

That doesn't sound like an 87-year-old raving lunatic to me. It sounds like someone that is moored closer to reality than Obama or his apologists like George and "Boney Bills."


Something to chew on -- "Religion is Dying: Soaring Secularism in America and the West" and the description from Amazon

"Perhaps 50 million adult Americans now say their religion is “none” or “don’t know.” This number has climbed dramatically since the 1990s. About 20 million U.S. Catholics have left that church - so one-tenth of American adults now are ex-Catholics. Two-thirds of American Christians in their 20s drop out of church before age 30, one report estimates. Once-prestigious mainline Protestant faiths with seminary-educated clergy have disintegrated so severely since 1960 that one analyst refers to “Flatline Protestantism.” An estimated 4,000 American churches close each year. From every direction, evidence is snowballing that America, known for devout religion, is following the secular path of Western Europe, Canada, Australia, Japan and other modern democracies, where churchgoing has retreated to a fringe. The trend can be seen in cultural changes such as the rapid social acceptance of gays. The Bible commands that homosexuals “shall surely be put to death,” and fundamentalist churches have ranted against them for centuries - yet most Americans now feel that they deserve human rights and equality. Religion has lost its power to dictate America’s morality. This book chronicles the slow, relentless demise of supernatural religion in America and the West."

So, like Islam, Christianity is being changed in America to fit the demand.


But that doesn't mean Christianity isn't a true religion.


It would seem short sighted to get into judging what is and what isn't a religion. Religion is entirely in the eyes of the believer. We can respect that and avoid judgement, as we've done for many decades now. Or we can begin analyzing each religion from the one point of view we all share - rational skepticism - and begin treating religion as we do other opinions.

Personally, it doesn't make much of a difference to me. I would guess that there are several billion believers that would probably not like their religions put up for debate in the same sense that we debate ghosts and politics.

The Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster and associated legal cases might offer some insight here. Www.venganza.com


Oops. My apologies to the fastest growing carbohydrate based religion.

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DO NOT attempt to navigate to that first link I posted. I used .com instead of .org. .com redirects to some very less than Christian/Muslim/Pastafarian content. Well... Maybe not less than Pastafarian considering their specific belief structure.

Still, only use the second link.


From AMJA's "About Us" webpage:

The Assembly of Muslim Jurists of America (AMJA), is an independent, nonpartisan, nonprofit organization with tax-exempt status under Internal Revenue Section 501(c)(3). It was established in response to the growing need of an Islamic jurisprudence specific to Muslims in the West. Its main goal is to uphold authentic standards using high academic standards, moderate approach and a rejection of extremism.

That does not sound like a group promoting sharia law in the US for Muslims.

Furthermore, their public statement regarding Islam and the USA:

AMJA recognizes that human brotherhood is the basic principle that should govern the relations between all peoples and nations. Therefore, the pursuit of peace and goodwill between all nations should be a desirable objective for all members of the human family. In this light, AMJA rejects any ideology or effort that aims to put the United States of America and Islam in conflict. Such conflict will only lead to human suffering and loss of valuable opportunities for mutual cooperation. AMJA does not support the propagation of enmity and violence towards the American people and their institutions. We also recognize that the laws of the United States of America secure the religious and civil rights of Muslims.

It's frightening to see "the sky is falling" sort pf paranoia and enmity regarding any religion and Islam is most certainly a religion. Listening to some 87 YO cracker go off about Sharia Law is like listening to Trump talk about women.


Now Coasters joins Boney Bills in spouting the same ageist discrimination. Shame on you.

Did you even watch the video? This Admiral was invited to speak at the conference and is more on the ball than the two of you ever will be... put together.


Uffish, it's insensitive and just wholly incorrect to say Islam is not a religion.

It is a religion. A very popular one. And full of good, loving people. Just like Christianity and any other religion.

Let's not get into the game of criticizing religion. Very terrible things can be said about each, and very strong cases can be made against all kinds of belief.


^^^ Now Coasters joins Boney Bills in spouting the same ageist discrimination. ^^^

Does that include BS?


Ageism?

If you're that old and spouting such hatred about another religion, you lose your credibility and look like an old fool.

Remember Bill Shockley? All those smarts he used to invent the transistor and then he had to open his yap about his special theory of race. He even wanted to pay the "genetically disadvantaged" (black people) to voluntarily be sterilized.

Some people, no matter how highfalutin' their credentials, believe their own press and don't know when to shut the heck up.


Lyons, in the Navy for 36 years and a critic of Obama, said the nation has to come to “grips” with Islam as something other than a religion. “Until you recognize that Islam is the political movement masquerading as a religion, you’re never going to come to grips with it,” he said at the conference titled the "Defeat Jihad Summit."

Truth is what twisted anti-military fools on the far-Left consider "hatred about another religion."

And they wonder why Trump is resonating among independents!


Sure thing, Honeyblather, your bigotry is perfectly justified and the other bigots in your TRIBE agree.


Having a discussion with people who claim "Islam is not a religion" is perhaps the most irrational action.

The fools who make such a statement are either "trolling" or are simply ignorant.

Approximately 1/4 of the worlds population are followers of the Islamic faith and some dingbats say it is not a religion.

Idiots


>> its insensitive and just wholly incorrect to say Islam is not a religion.<<

"Incorrect?" I did not say that Islam was -not- a religion, I said I was interested in why some other people think it might not be. See the difference? It's certainly a religion for most people practicing it. But the murderous extremists may be using it more to propel their desire for power forward.

"Insensitive?" If someone is so overly sensitive that they cannot tolerate discussions about all religions then this isn't the country for them. It's what we do.

Let me put some icing on that cake: I think the Muslim religion as practised in most countries (ie in its pure form) is terrible. It treats women like second class citizens or chattle and encourages mutilating them. It is intolerant of voting and of other people's views. It lends itself to extreme violence and its base members don't stop it. It encourages the takeover over other countries through mass illegal invasion. Is that enough or should I continue?

Seems that it's about time they were a little more sensitive to others.


"And they wonder why Trump is resonating among independents!" Oh, francis, don't you proof anything you post?

I'm sure what you meant to state was "And they wonder why Trump is resonating among republicans!"

The rest of us are just enjoying the show!

btw, your welcome. Please try a little harder to check your stuff before you hit that "Submit" button. How embarrassing (for you).


Possibly the dumbest thread I have ever seen on TA. I'd say offensive too, but it is such a ludicrous posit that it simply isn't offensive- just ugly and stupid is all.

What does amaze me is the number of people willing to engage in such a pointless discussion.

In fact I've got a great idea- new thread coming up just to make my point.

Cheers!!

dce


What's the differency between Islamic radicals who deny the legitimacy of all other religions and Christian right-wingers who do the same thing?

Nothing.

Religious extremists are the same no matter what faith they profess. Only the labels differ.


Hey, it's nice Trump can steal away Independents who might possibly vote Democrat.

How do you know that's not what fd meant, George?


Mike, some people like to pretend they're strong religious followers for any number of reasons. I'd look at the individuals or pockets of factions to see what their real motivation is.


That's OK DCE, I'm sure you've had worse said about you plenty of times. Funny how apoplectic some of you get over nothing. Jeez.

"Cheers!"


"How do you know that's not what fd meant, George?" I don't, and neither does anyone else (likely even the wise one from Gualala, too). The only certainty with any of His posts is that it is meant to offend and draw attention to himself. Beyond that is anyone's guess.

Asking anyone what francis might have meant about anything is even more ridiculous than titling a thread "Islam is not a religion".

You two been hanging out together?

Btw, what with all the posts to nowhere, maybe you and francis should consider hooking up with a Super-PAC and take a shot at the 2016 Presidency. I think you two would fit right in! - and there's plenty of room. In fact, I expect there to be even more room shortly, so give it some thought.


What is wrong with people when they cannot even discuss a link to what other people say?

Yes.

Some of you ARE idiots.


You didn't even pick up on reasons WHY some people would be hoping to make Islam a non-religion, did you?


Oopsie! There might be something you all didn't think of, huh? Just pretend you can't see this thread any more...


Hey Uff- just so we're clear- and htis is important to me: I wasn't saying anything negative about you, personally or otherwise.

Your idea and thoughts regarding this thread- you bet, but you personally- no way. I don't personalize this crap. We're all doing the best we can and I respect your right to your views as much as I respect you. (And my own right to, ahem, indicate when I find those views to be, ahem a bit out there.)

Be well Uff!!

dce


That's all very nice but you and others still blew it by attributing someone else's views (Islam is not a religion) to mine and then acting like goons about it.

What do you think the words "So says Rear Admiral..." mean? What happened to basic reading comprehension? Do I have to write for the lowest and laziest visitor to TA? Apparently so:

>> Possibly the dumbest thread I have ever seen on TA. I'd say offensive too, but it is such a ludicrous posit that it simply isn't offensive- just ugly and stupid is all.<<


Good morning Uffish,

I, for one, and I would assume most others, understand that you are sharing the views of someone else. The views you are sharing, though, are rather awful. Titling a thread "Islam is not a religion" is a deliberate use of someone else's words to create conflict.

I'm left wondering: why share this specific persons views, and why focus on the most acrimonious half sentence?

The Muslims I know are wonderful people. Their religion is central to their lives just as is being proud Americans. I wish you knew them as well.

Enjoy your day. I have nothing else to add to all of this.


^^^ The Muslims I know are wonderful people. ^^^

No one said all Muslims were bad. But there are some pretty bad characters operating in the mideast right now that are a threat or want to become a threat to the West. To them, Islam is more than a religion. How many examples do you need to see

[u]ntil you recognize that Islam is the political movement masquerading as a religion? -- Admiral James “Ace” Lyons, Ret.


^^^ attributing someone else's views (Islam is not a religion) to mine and then acting like goons about it. ^^^

Some are too eager to bray about their political correctness. It's also an effective way to engage the mob to shout down speech they don't like.


To the people that I know and love and respect reading something like "Islam is not a religion" would be hurtful and further a misconception that their religion is less deserving of respect and tolerance in America. It saddens me to read such a statement on the review website.

Labeling Islam by it's misdeeds is no more productive than labeling Christianity by the same measure. It's worth remembering that atrocity and terror can be found in any religion.


Uffis, what is the title of the thread and who wrote it? Quit trying to wimp out and pretend innocence. Be a man and be responsible for what you wrote.


Where is the natural curiosity that thinking people have?

Surely you all realize the Admiral knows a great deal more than you about the political movements and motivation in that part of the world. Or do you consider yourselves more expert than this expert who was invited to speak in Washington recently?

You probably do!

The liberal crowd here has buried their open minds so far up their PC ****s that they commit ageist bigotry insulting all elders than listen to what this obviously sharp Admiral says about the advancing tide of aggressive Muslims.

By the way John Lynch is about 3-4 years older than this 87 year old Admiral so way to go disparaging him too in your rush to squelch discussion.

A complete failure on your parts. Zero intellectual curiosity, pathetic, embarrassing, and telling. And sorry you cannot read, BB.


First Uff- "Islam is not a Religion" are your words- not those of the nimrod you are trying to attribute them to. Sure, you were inspired to write them by his own words, which coincidentally are exactly the same as yours. You are the one who decided to open this thread, you are the one who typed those words. You could have said "Admiral So and So says Islam is not a religion." Or you could have put the phrase in quotes.

So don't try to pass this thread off as simply your attempt to get people to think. It was a hand grenade, (and an ugly one) and I believe given your intellect that you knew it when you pulled the pin and threw it.

>>>Surely you all realize the Admiral knows a great deal more than you about the political movements and motivation in that part of the world. Or do you consider yourselves more expert than this expert who was invited to speak in Washington recently?<<<

Funny thing that- I don't know if you remember back when I first appeared in TA, but in TA- by the artist formerly known as honeybadger no less, in the Editorial Pages (by the esteemed Mr. Larimer of course) and in other places it was pointed out over and over again that I was "not an expert." When I would say that I had met with engineers, that the bridge was sound, that it wasn't going to fall into the creek, that Sharma was a fool and an ignoramus for the things he had said: Everyone on their side said "He's not an expert. He has no experience. Don't listen to him because his opinions shouldn't' count because our experts say he is wrong."

So when people resort to crying "listen to the experts" my reaction always has been- and the bridge saga confirms the validity of this approach: "listen to your own intellect, consider the facts, reason, and THINK."

Regards,

dce


^^^ A complete failure on your parts. Zero intellectual curiosity, pathetic, embarrassing, and telling. ^^^

Political correctness has that effect on the intellectually lazy. Rather than talk about the threat posed by radical Islamists they criticize the words you use to shut you up. That's much easier than acknowledging or confronting the threat, and it has the added benefit of making them feel better about themselves.


DCE is not a bridge expert, nor did any bridge expert ever say that the existing MSB is unsound.

If DCE wants to argue that radical Islam does not pose a threat as identified by Admiral Lyons, then he should present that argument. Deliberately mischaracterizing the professional judgment of others so he can bray about outwitting those experts is no justification for dismissing the views of Adm. Lyons.


Thanks FD. Unfortunately for some I tend to dig in my heels rather than shut up under pressure.

DCE says (note: not my words. I am just quoting him) >>Sure, you were inspired to write them by his own words, which coincidentally are exactly the same as yours<<

Well OF COURSE they're the same words, DCE, it's a freaking QUOTE. :-) The very next words were: "So says Admiral Lyons." It expressly means it's a quote by Lyons. Not what I said. How can that be misunderstood? It's such a common way of writing.

(Or are you using a Clintonian defense by claiming that TYPING the quote "Islam is not a religion" means I "wrote it?" Hmm. I suppose you could pass a lie detector test with that one... lol.)

So no, I wasn't trying to throw a verbal hand grenade. You folks just dropped your bong at the gas station, that's all. KABOOM. Think through what's being said instead of making incendiary accusations.


Whatever...

You initiated a ridiculous thread, as is evidenced by: 1) your need to constantly defend it / 2) the supposedly slick way you couched it through the title / 3) and finally by the fact that the only alleged support you have, other than your own, is francis.

I sure wouldn't want to hang my hat on anything like that - but to each their own.

Have a great day.


>>>DCE is not a bridge expert, nor did any bridge expert ever say that the existing MSB is unsound. <<<

No, DCE is not a bridge expert- and he never said (or implied that he was.

Which makes the point in spades: People who are not experts can (and frequently do) have a better understanding of things that the "experts" think they know all about.

As to "Nor did any bridge expert ever say that..." Sorry FD, but that's BS. Here's two quotes just off the top of my head:

"The spandrel walls could "flip off" in an earthquake and the bridge could completely collapse." (Mo Sharma, City Engineer and the guy who got the hole ball of wax rolling...)

"The fact that that bridge is still standing is an engineering impossibility." (David Anderson- lead Engineer for URS...)

Cheers,

dce


^^^ You initiated a ridiculous thread, ... ^^^

There's that mush-headed PC thinking again.

It is not ridiculous to identify the serious threat posed by radical Islam. But it is ridiculous to pretend that there is no such threat for the sake of political correctness.

^^^ Sorry FD, but that's BS. ^^^

No it's not. Both statements relayed reasonable observations, particularly for a bridge that is well over 100 years old and in a state of disrepair. You still mis-characterized what I said about the bridge and what handle I used when writing about the bridge.

But nice dodge regarding the validity of what a retired admiral has to say about the threat!


Sorry FD- perhaps I should have made it clearer: I think the retired admiral is full of bull-pucky.

But since you asked:

I think that stating that any religion "isn't a religion" is inflammatory, unnecessary, and exposes our baser instincts and unfortunate tendencies.

I think that anyone who hopes to have a useful dialogue by starting a thread with "X Religion isn't a religion" has about as much chance of success as starting a thread with "The world is flat." And given the relative intellect of the people on this thread I think it is safe to say that everyone here knows that too.

I think that useful dialogues begin by finding common ground, not by vilifying an entire population and denigrating their world view, or most deeply held personal beliefs.

I think that anyone who sees such things in such a mono-chromatic way is simply not going to engage on substantive discussion of the real issues in play.

I think this thread is perfect evidence of what happens when you play to our baser instincts. One side says boo, the other side says nah nah nah, and there is no discussion about actual issues. (There practically can't be as the premise is so flawed there is no place to even start a dialogue.)

I think that people- around the world, and of any given religion, political system, or other personal foundation are, on the whole, interested in contributing positively to the world- instead of contributing to its destruction.

I believe that when you seek common ground with people you will find common ground, and once there solutions can be resolved which would never have been possible when you were on opposite sides of the fence calling each other names.

I believe that a nation that lives in fear- of itself and/or the world at large (Think second amendment libertarians afraid that the Govt. is coming...), is neither healthy nor productive, and that this fear, and the promulgation of it, are destroying our legitimacy and power in the world.

That's probably enough of what I believe for one day...

Cheers,

dce


^^^ That's probably enough of what I believe for one day... ^^^

Your still dodging the question and obfuscating the main point.

Islam is being used to advance a radical ideology that is a threat to the West. Were you less full of your PC self you might be able to acknowledge that simple fact.

It's your opinions that need to be dismissed, not those of the Admiral.

"Hey dummy, if you keep standing there you'll get clobbered by a train!"

"I don't like the tone of your voi..."

Splat.

"Dearest sir, you've been horribly disfigured and dismembered by a fast moving transportation device. So sorry to have disturbed you!"


Islam is being used to advance a radical ideology that is a threat to the West.

So is every religion out there. Catholics want to insert their narrow, defunct ideology firmly into ladies pantaloons. Perverts!

Those crazy Presbyterians want gay people to marry one another. Such tyranny!

Scientologists want to enslave, torture and rob their flock. They're new, but they learned very quickly from the Catholics. Ouch!

Unitarians aren't actually religious, but believe they need to meet every Sunday, regardless. Such apathy!

Jews think they're God's chosen people. Where's the humility in a group that walks around thinking they're special? That's completely unAmerican!

We should put religion back where it belongs.

In a cave in the Middle East.


Well said, Wonk. And thank you for your rational input.


"I believe that when you seek common ground with people you will find common ground, and once there solutions can be resolved which would never have been possible when you were on opposite sides of the fence calling each other names."

Some call that civil dialog. Others call it fundamental toward communication.

Any way one slices it, communication is the very basis of problem solving. Without communication, no issue between 2 or more people can be resolved. With communication, however, there is at least a chance.

Maybe a good example of that in real life can be found in the Iran nuclear discussions, which resulted in an agreement.

Whether you like or dislike the agreement reached, the point is made and the same; no solution to any issue without constructive (read civil) dialog.

Your childish name calling and tantrums provide us a very good example of what Not to do; how Not to approach or address an issue.

Just do the exact opposite of what you've been doing and life will be lovely, francis.

Glad to be of assistance.


I love the way, when someone is called on the carpet here they just sidestep it and move on to something different. Classic.

1. For instance, DCE claims I have the same exact view as Admiral Lyons-- why, I even used the same words! After I take time to patiently show how it's an obvious quote he gives no response but initiates another long harangue about how I'm supposedly trying to whip people into a frenzy with inflammatory remarks.

2. Really? How would you know if that's what I wanted to do? Pardon me but apparently you think we're filming an episode of "Herman's Head?"

3. And does it really seem like to try to get everyone worked into a lather? Or did you all just kind of go nutty on your own by intent (Yes you did).

Every one of you had the chance to take the high road and ask what I meant, but hey, nothing beats a good lynching and then blaming the fracas on the person getting the abuse.

4. Speaking of which, you didn't respond to why you think it's OK to denigrate an Admiral simply for being 87 years old. So you feel the same way about one of your local friends who 4 years older?


you didn't respond to why you think it's OK to denigrate an Admiral simply for being 87 years old,/i>

I did. He's old enough to know better and doesn't. He's not 17, he's 87.

Like they say, "There's no fool like an old fool."



No, you were making fun of him for being old, not for staying his views which whether you like it or not are based on a deep understanding of the area.


No, I was making fun of a ridiculous, old fool, like it or not, but that is an extreme tangent from the actual topic which started by a bold concept that Islam is a political movement, not a religion. The general consensus seems to be that involvement in politics by religious fanatics is not unusual and that Islam is indeed a religion. The Koran is not a run book for community activists or a bomb-making manual for violent jihadists.


Wow, by now I had hoped that Clay would have taken down this blog. Can someone call or email Clay, I'm at work.


On what basis? No one has said anything particularly terrible here beyond the ageist remarks. And that wasn't me.

So what if an Admiral said what he said. He was invited to speak in Washington and said a lot of other things too. Take his comments about the Islamic extremists at face value, discuss it like adults, or join another topic.

I'm really not happy about the overreaction by the lefties who add nothing to the discussion.


I don't understand what Admiral Lyons' age has to do with the validity of his remarks. Could we please agree not do that in the future? Hopefully we're all trying to reach as advanced as age as possible in good health-- this gent had a 3.5 hour flight and then rushed right into a big meeting. Pretty impressive!

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It is hard to believe that anyone takes seriously the ravings of an 87 year old man. Uffis, I am surprised that you do.

XXXXX XXXXX, a resident of Half Moon Bay, on August 11, 2015 at 11:29 am

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Listening to some 87 YO cracker go off about Sharia Law is like listening to Trump talk about women.

XXXXXXX, a resident of Half Moon Bay, on August 11, 2015 at 12:49 pm


Uff, sweetie, you continue to embarrass yourself about your post and it's incredibly insensitive, uneducated premise. Now you're ranting about ageism as a means to deflect from your original premise. If you're sensitive to ageism, don't post threads based on the rantings of a clueless geezer.


No, XXXXXXX, I'm calling you out specifically for your offensive post above. It's bigoted, hurtful and damaging. But you knew that when you posted it.


>>If you're sensitive to ageism, don't post threads based on the rantings of a clueless geezer.<<

It's not about me. I'm not in the senior category.

But it's shocking that you threaten to continue making bigoted comments if something is written by an elder that the self important "COASTERS" doesn't approve of.

How nice. I can't wait until you personally experience bring ridiculed by some know-nothing jackass for the annoying effrontery of getting old. Not that you're a jackass. Oh no...


Unfortunately, the mob has succeeded in diverting attention away from the threat posed by radical Islam to "insensitivity towards Muslims."


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